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    02/14/2013

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    AnonCry0

    You misspelled Anonymous. Of course, I might have misread, after 45 seconds of reading I decided to jam a fork in my eye so I wouldn't have to keep reading. Pro tip, there's a difference between journalism and going on rants about personal opinion with almost no full understanding of the concept you are so opinionated about. Anonymous is not a group of hackers, activists, or vigilantes. We are people, just like you. We eat at the same restaurants you do. We aren't the tattooed tough guy in the back, glaring. We're not the nerdy loner eating alone. We are most likely the nice waitress that you thought gave excellent service. Because we are just people. Some of us are good, some of us are evil. Some of us are politically left, some of us are politically right. The only thing that makes us Anonymous is the ability to step back from your society, strip away preconceived notions about each other based on race, gender, creed, and past, and bond together to form a common goal. And that goal for some members is what other members are fighting against. We are just people who like to judge one another by their ideas and behaviors, as opposed to their appearance and past. You wonder why Anonymous attacked you... You kicked the hive. If you put your finger in a hornets nest poking around, they swarm will attack. If you don't want attacked, don't target us. Disagree with us, fine. Criticize us, fine. Call out individual members, or blame the majority by the minority... then we have a problem.

    Memphis

    I do remember one of the Anonymous people saying he was with the rape victim and was receiving any comments of support that anyone would like to give. She could not give comments back because her lawyer advised her not to. But she expressed gratitude for the support which is appropriate imo.I would be grateful for all the support too. Whether she condones Anonymous
    tactics is still a question I have. I would never begrudge a victim any consolation, and she's just a child anyway. I do however wonder if lawyers ever use Anomymous in cases. Either side could be.

    Yours truly

    Liz Henry is actually perpetuating a self-serving myth regarding the 'Gay Girl in Damascus' blog. She, Andy Carvin, Jillian York, etc. have been patting themselves on the back for how brilliant they were when that is actually fantasy.

    The fact that the blog was a hoax was broken by none of them nor by any of the twitterati; it was broken when the woman whose photographs were used was contacted by her ex-husband to say her photo was in the paper. She contacted the Guardian -- which refused her -- and then the BBC (which didn't).

    After that, finding the hoaxer was a matter of an old school journalist from the WaPo being contacted by a man who had been given a street address for the blogger; that address led immediately to the hoaxer via old school pulling of tax records.

    But ... when fact doesn't match narrative, tell a pretty self-serving lie instead!

    Cathiee McMillan

    AnonCry0

    you full of it.
    "The only thing that makes us Anonymous is the ability to step back from your society, strip away preconceived notions about each other based on race, gender, creed, and past, and bond together to form a common goal."
    So your common goal is to Break the LAW. That is your only common GOAL. YOU hack into Things Illegally. You are all nothing but petty criminals. You then go on to threaten a Blogger for writing things you dislike.

    Catherine Fitzpatrick

    AnonCry0, keep talking, as you only reveal just how much of a cult Anonymous in fact is, with all the signs, the constant 'explaining' that has to be done for the uniniated, the constant attempt to normalize what isn#t the norm, etc.

    It's completely unacceptable for a liberal democratic society to have something called a 'hive' that gets to harass and bully and dox people. That is an entirely illiberal concept. I reject the idea that you cannot criticize Anonymous without fearing some sort of hive. Its more evidence of cult behaviour.

    Yours truly, I don't know the back story to all of this, but I take your comments seriously and will look into it. I asked Liz Henry after the meeting how it was that Andy Carvin got turned around. Her answer; she and her friends back-channelled to him. But that's just what bothers me. The idea that it isn't journalism, it isn't investigation, but it's 'our crowd' deciding everything among their own clique because they are the 'smart ones, surrounded by idiots.'

    To the extend Liz as spoken of principles that are outside her little group and her friends on the Internet Freedom circuit, radical Silicon Valley edition, she can appeal to a wider audience including me, things like

    o nothing about us without us
    o not imagining you provide voice to the voiceless, you aren't a substitute for them
    o the tendency to create personas like this because few would pay attention otherwise, and that is not justified

    So I want her to apply all those excellent principles to Steubenville. And she wouldn't. But maybe she will some day.

    They do apply - we don't know that the rape victim and her family in fact embraces Anonymous or everything that has been done it her name.

    Anonymous is assuming that their taking up of this cause is legitimate, but they are illegitimate, exploiting it for their own agenda, and come from discredited tactics and violent porn and misogyny, not to mention the rape culture of doxing and DdOsing.

    Memphis, a lawyer can't used Anonymous supplied materials in court, that could not happen. They would have to reproduce the steps to get the materials by legitimate means to make them admissible in court.

    Anonymous lies, and lies about lying. I have real doubts whether they ever got with the rape victim. We don't know it. It is not confirmed. It is what Anonymous craves most of all for validation, but we don't know it is true.

    Memphis

    Thank you for addressing the question regarding lawyers and Anonymous. I guess I should have made more myself more clear that I'm not asking about discovery or procedure, but rather the use of media to bring attention to their case. Or maybe even incite a little public outcry for their case. Slap an "Anonymous" on it, and you get more bang for your buck I would think. Well, so far that is. This recent attempt at attacking you has helped water down the Anonymous effect imo.

    Recently, I've become fascinated with the intertwining of law and media, so these are just rambling thoughts of mine. But thank you again for writing about Anonymous. Voices against are few and far between. And those that do dare are bullied.

    Auryn

    Regarding your comments on Deadly Codec, every time it comes up I notice you justify your own stalking efforts more and more by calling it Journalism.

    There is one small problem here Prok, a blog does not make you a "journalist".

    These are people who mocked you in a video game because of your trolling and disruptive behavior as is expected, and in return you stalk them like a crazy person while blogging about being a "victim" to cover your tracks. Phoning funeral parlours? A normal person might feel slightly ashamed of themself but I doubt you have the slightest remorse.

    Catherine Fitzpatrick

    Oh, nonsense, Auryn, what a lot of tripe and propaganda.

    The Alphaville Herald covered Deadly Codec with delight -- it gave page views -- as they loved his derring-do and "transgressive behaviour" against "The Man" -- no matter that "the Man" in this case were people like Mitch Kapor in a Hawaiian shirt pushing open source software cultism, or Philip Rosedale in a space blanket like Superman at Burning Man thinking he was building a giant sentient neural-networks Brain in Second Life.

    I didn't engage in any "trolling or disruptive" behaviour. I ran a little rentals business because I enjoyed seeing how virtual economies and societies worked. The "transgressors" hated people who made little cottages with picket fences -- my customers -- and they harassed and bullied them because they didn't believe people should have private property or walled gardens online -- and these were visible symbols of them.

    They also hated me with a passion because I documented and abuse reported their wild antics like harassing me first over my critique of their "art" involved in not only creating falling 911 towers and crudely writing "Valentine notes" like "I'm falling for you" on them, but bringing their faux terrorist planes and falling towers to crash on others on other sims who didn't think it was so funny and had experienced 9/11 in real life. That's all. That's all it's about. It's not about me engaging in "trolling and disruptive behaviour" -- at best a vague and overbroad concept but about telling the truth about a bunch of online thugs and bullies. That really is what it's about.

    One of them -- Deadly Codec -- who had harassed me but had harassed others much more who were trying to organize live music concerts in SL (that gave him a bigger audience) -- then supposedly recanted, but continued to write long, incoherent pieces justifying online hacking and criminality and then continued to belligerently describe everyone else as using the Internet wrong except himself and his friends. The Herald in fact joined in the harassment of me -- whenever I tried to hold my regular Friday night discussion groups, these freaks and assholes would fly in and start disrupting my meeting and harassing the participants and scattering particles and crap all over and crash the sim *so that we could not speak; so that we could not have free speech and free *critical* speech*.

    That was the reality and we all know it.

    Your little tap dance here is just more of the crass bullshit that you thugs always bring to every revelation of your crimes.

    Of course a journalist phones a funeral parlour to confirm a death. That's what is available to the public. Phoning local police and coroners is something local journalists with those connections in particular will do. There is absolutely nothing wrong with checking facts in this way. It isn't heckling or harassing, but simply *checking in real life* what something *on the Internet that could be hacked* says. That's necessary when you have a racist, anti-gay thug in a virtual world who spouted hate crap and crashed people's sims, and then suddenly pretended to reform AND claim to have contracted AIDS and to be dying. It's especially necessary when another hipster journo student taking the side of these lovely "transgressive" hackers in fact reports FALSELY that he has died when he has not.

    So yeah, I'm a normal person who checks facts. Bloggers get to do that in a free society that is not run by Internet thugs. They sure do. And those who prevent them from *finding the truth* are the ones who should feel shame and remorse, not me.

    It matters not one whit that this transpired "in a video game," i.e. in a virtual world which wasn't a game, but had simulations. That's because all of that world was only preparation for the next phase of Anonymous activity we see now in real life...

    Auryn

    You can type walls of text in an attempt to cloud the issue all you want, but the fact remains that you actively stalked a kid in real life who had upset you in a video game, and simply signing up for a free blog and calling it Journalism does not grant you some sort of immunity. Stalking is illegal in my country. I bet it is in yours too.

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