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    02/08/2013

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    Andrew

    At the risk of falling into "Tekkie literalism" I'll point out that DOJ briefing one or more members of Congress does not a hearing make.

    Based on my experience I would be willing to hazard a guess that the reason a briefing on DoJ's handling of U.S. v. Swartz would be closed could be that as you said, he's dead. Airing a case in public after a defendant kills himself, leaving no opportunity for presenting a defense, would be unseemly -- there is very little to be gained by talking more about the case itself at this point. I would also suspect that among the topics Issa wants to be briefed on is any kind of rubric or formula used in exercising prosecutorial discretion, and I sincerely doubt any AUSA wants to let potential defendants know what sort of threshold of criminality to stay under in order to keep the Feds out if a case.

    Issa himself, however, occupies a serendipitous jurisdictional nexus for this issue, since he both chairs OGR and is a fairly senior Republican on Judiciary.

    Any actual hearing on the L'affaire Swartz would probably be held by Judiciary, I suspect, absent evidence suggesting misuse of that prosecutorial discretion, in which case it might be more appropriate for OGR to take the lead. That the matter overlaps means Issa needs to tread lightly, especially since Rep. Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., the new Judiciary chairman, is known as tech-savvy and Internet-friendly.

    Catherine Fitzpatrick

    Oh, I know that, big guy.

    And that's because I've testified myself in both briefings and hearings in Congress and trust me, I do know the difference, especially when a briefing gets upgraded to a hearing, or a hearing gets downgraded to a briefing.

    This is only a briefing. And I saw that it was reported as a briefing. It's in the links I've linked to.

    I've merely used it in the sort of conventional way that nerds who haven't been on the Hill don't use it in, but just ordinary people.

    But sure, since you RUSHED to my thread to literalize on this point, I'll go correct it : )

    No, I said the opposite: he's dead, so he can't be harmed, so what is so secret? The dead get confidentiality when they are public figures just because they die? If anything, given the outrageous claim the progs are making that "the government killed him," we need an OPEN HEARING, not a CLOSED BRIEFING. A real, honest-to-God hearing with summoning of witnesses and all the rest.

    Of course the AUSA doesn't want to divulge its threshold. And that is normal. IT's the kind of literalism geeks always demand of law that they think is like code and want to turn into code. It's not. This is like the WikiLeaks parliamentarian Jonsdottir demanding that NATO tell her the threshold at which a drone would be used, or a response to a terrorist attack would be escalated. And of course they will not answer that because if they give out their threshold information, then the enemy will dance around it just like the griefers of Second Life dancing near your property on Governor Linden land to grief you.

    Not only is Issa in a "serendipitous jurisdictional nexus" -- a term I will have to remember to use! -- he is connected to Silicon Valley. Although some argue his district really isn't the heart of Silicon Valley. But it's ideological.

    The real hearing could only be held by Judiciary as you say IF the issue of "prosecutorial overreach" isn't at stake. And it is. That's what their letter was about.

    I'm going to write some letters about this, and Bob Goodlatte seems like one place to start, along with other members of the Oversight committee who aren't in the Silicon Valley pocket, if they can be found.

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