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ess emm

"...collateral collection isn't massive..."

Yeah, it's only 90% of what the NSA collects. And then the data goes into the "company store" where the NSA can run all of their tradecraft on it. And its not like they dont do anything with this stolen info, just how do you think they coerce people to be informants?

"Well, that's what happens when you have the poor judgement first to try to get over your shattering divorce by suddenly converting to Islam.."

Converting to Islam is an exercise of poor judgment? Seriously, that is one of the most F'd up and crazy things you've written---the Interpreter must be proud to have you.

Kizone Kaprow

"Every reflexive defender of the NSA needs to take a really, really hard look at themselves"

First, the general rule for pronoun agreement is straightforward: A singular antecedent requires a singular pronoun; a plural antecedent needs a plural pronoun. "Each reflexive defender" is singular. "Themselves" is plural. Shachtman can't write. Or maybe he's a collectivist. Or both. But I digress.

I took a look at myself this morning, and again just a few minutes ago. I'm content at what I saw: an individual who sees right through the anarcho-libertarian propaganda.

Catherine Fitzpatrick

@ess emm

There isn't any evidence at all, least of all provided by Snowden or Greenwald, that any of this information collected incidentally to targeting suspects was used against those non-suspects, or that they were blackmailed into becoming informants. None at all. If they had it, believe me, they would have used it by now. There isn't anything of the sort.

Nor is it "massive" in any meaningful sense of the term.

And yes, I absolutely stand by my comment about conversion to Islam after a shattering divorce. It is indeed an example of poor judgement to suddenly convert to Islam merely because of a shattering divorce. It shows a psychiatric break to suddenly convert to anything, even born-again Christianity, if you are doing it out of a psychological break-down. Then to hook up with a guy who is espousing an extremist version of Islam and joining the Taliban -- that's even more poor judgement. But all of it goes together. Women who suddenly under stress convert to a religion because their boyfriend requests it or because they think it will pull their lives together -- it's coercion, not free will.

The context is clear here, and it is not some kind of blanket condemnation to anyone converting to Islam or any religion if they please voluntarily. Indeed, it is an internationally-recognized human right to believe or not to believe, and to change your religion.

That you would try to smear me with some claim of religious intolerance, and also link it to my employer to try to force me into silence only discredits you as an anonymous thug.

Kizone Kaprow

This is how Eddie Snowden ends:
not with a bang, but a whimper.

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