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July 04, 2013

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mab

Cathy, I’m so glad you’re writing about this.

Europe’s blind eye (willing/grudging submission) to Russia’s thugishness is not just its dependence on energy. Russia, with its huge, unsated market, has been the salvation of thousands of European companies, big and small. (And not only European companies, of course; ask Ford about the importance of Russia for its survival.) The competition is so fierce and the economic situation so dire at home, they can barely scrape up another percentage point of the market in France or Germany or the UK. But they invest in Russia and within a few years they’ve grabbed 20 percent of the market (in widgets, in shoe manufacturing, in chocolate, in IT), and in another couple of years the majority of the company’s profits are generated in Russia. They complain about the “challenging economic climate,” and they natter support for greater transparency in business, but the bottom line is that they can make money here, it’s not far from home (their kids can fly home to grandma), and the country (its people, the food, the landscape) doesn’t seem as foreign as, say, China. People don’t like to think badly of themselves. They can’t quite say, “Yeah, we’re investing in a country with values that are antithetical to (proclaimed) European values, but hey, we’re just in it for the money.” It’s much easier to sneer at the Americans, to begin to believe that America is “just as bad,” to insist that Americans haven’t gotten over their cold war attitudes while they – tolerant, multicultural, pragmatic, sensible Europeans – they are bringing Russia into the fold.

I’m not against European or American investment in Russia. It has brought skills and improved the business climate. It’s delivered stuff to Russians dying for stuff (and I don’t mean that to be as snarky as it sounds; stuff – food, cars, blenders, computers, clothes, washing machines – nothing wrong with that). And it’s made a lot of money for a lot of people and companies.

But it’s a funny thing: Despite all the EU this and “common European values” that, it’s each country for itself in the marketplace. Russia has played on that perfectly. If the French government does something they don’t like, suddenly French companies operating in Russia have their licenses revoked, or find it impossible to complete a land deal, or can’t import parts. If the French companies are driven out, or even experience a few months of downturn, fourteen German or Italian or Swedish companies move in. These companies and countries won’t unite. Oh, except in one thing: they are all delighted that American companies have problems here. They are very, very happy that they can get lucrative state contracts and the Americans can’t.

Mr. X

Catherine,

Since the master debater known as Craig Pirrong and his hivemind groupies on Twitter have consistently sought to have my accounts suspended and blocked all comment, I will link to this comment here:

http://zenpundit.com/?p=24328#comment-119520

Where I discuss with thoughtful, patriotic people who know 1,000,000 times more about actual military and intelligence strategy than U.S. Naval Academy dropout Pirrong ever will (yeah, I threw that HS dropout charge against Snowden back in that oath breaking smarmy bastard's face) how things could go downhill very fast once you have an 'respectable' Establishment endorsing a system of unlimited spying on the American people. Then you combine this spying apparatus with an economic collapse in which Cyprus or Argentina-style 'bail ins' come to America, demonize veterans as potential terrorists, try to strip them of their 2nd Amendment rights with 'prove you're not crazy' letters, side against them universally in family courts should their wives choose to leave them and take the kids, throw in 150 million rifles of military utility.

What do you get Catherine? A nice, low level simmering Civil War 2.0. Particularly in states that are more heavily armed and that have major NSA data centers/fusion centers in them (Texas, Utah). What are you and other three letter agency worshippers going to do Catherine when some pilot instead of dropping Red Flag ordinance in the Utah desert decides to do an Arc Light on the NSA hub instead?

What part of your constant bootlicking to unlimited federal surveillance power is pushing thousands of highly trained, heavily armed people towards insurrection (which is in fact, the goal) do you morons not get?

Oh, and as for the lame ass argument that NSA is protecting us from the terrorists and Putin hackers under every bed, has the thought occurred to you and Pirrong how much even just the Verizon metadata could be, to quote a certain jailed Illinois politician, 'f----ing golden' to the ChiComs and SVR for blackmailing American politicians? (Assuming of course the Obamanistas aren't already using every Senator or U.S. Rep's 'metadata' dials to gay escort services in greater D.C. for awesome blackmailing opportunities already.) Want to keep whining as to why Obama has been such a p---y towards Putin? Ya think VVP doesn't have some dirt on how Prez and what he was up to with Reggie Love the day Benghazi went down?

So go ahead Catherine, call me conspiracy theorist. But there are a lot of people like the ZenPundit who talk or interact with real live military and intelligence people (not the half assed State Dept. amateurs and VOA types you used to work for) who agree with him. Who read him and John Robb. You may wake up one day and find that your views are a minority even among those living off the federal teat.

http://zenpundit.com/?p=24175

Mr. X

And I love how Pirrong keeps citing you as an authority on William Binney, as if he's somehow debunked a single thing Binney has said or written. Or Kirakiou. Or Russ Tice who said he SAW WITH HIS OWN EYES proof NSA was spying on an obscure Illinois State Senator Barack Obama in 2004. Would that have been because of his cancelled British passport, his old work for CIA front companies, his CIA mom or grandma, Rashid Khalidi, or just because they wanted to watch an up and coming?

Guess what Catherine you articles about Binney are so pathetic in their readership that even I can't find them when Gov-oogling 'Catherine Fitzaptrick' 'Prokofy Neva' and 'William Binney'.

And the above commenter is such a joke. The Russians are so thuggish to EUrope, they tell the French and Italian governments to deny overflight rights to heads of state. Ha ha ha.

You and Pirrong should read Mike Vanderbough more. If Civil War 2.0 comes to America, Bill Clinton's 1999 rules of engagement against the Serbian media will be in effect. Meaning no distinction between those who do the blackbagging/droning of fellow Americans and those who cheer it on from the sidelines. I'd think about it if I lived in a state surrounded by 'gun nuts' not inclined to think highly of the NSA.

Mr. X

PS you think you've seen lawfare? You think if you can 'discredit' (whatever that means) Appelbaum or Greenwald or Assange and get them arrested by this corrupt, gun smuggling narco-trafficker arming Eric Holder Justice Department you've won? HA!

The Anons you hate so much are going to hack or get a huge dump of data from Booz Allen and the like. Greenwald has been genteel in comparison to what's probably coming down the pike. And when they do, and how much of private, non terror suspects personal data is exposed that Booz Allen keeps, I'd hate to be their CEO dealing with the inevitable class action lawsuits by the hundreds from outraged Americans. You'll blame the Anons but guess what it won't matter because the entire military industrial intel complex will be caught with its pants down.

Mr. X

which is in fact, the goal -- that's why the fascists who've taken over in D.C. love useful idiots like you all. Because they WANT to provoke a violent response. Thank God so far they haven't gotten it.

Mr. X

"What is really needed is only networking among likeminded political groups across the sea within countries and that means that they will have to join each other in countering other political groups within their own countries. Yes, that is what it means. It means giving up the fiction that the hands across the sea are to states only as such." In other words, transnational globalism, of the very type that the Ford, Rockefeller, and Soros foundations you've been associated throughout your career Catherine are into. Are you an American patriot, a Constitutionalist, and a person who tolerates other nations exercising national sovereignty as we exercise our own, or are you simply a globalist useful idiot?

"If you behave like an enemy or make common cause with the enemy, indeed you will be treated as such." Remember Catherine, Craig Pirrong, and groupies, this applies to ENEMIES OF THE CONSTITUTION FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. You defend those who take a big hot steaming dump on the 4th, and later on 1st and 2nd Amendments, you share their fate in the dock.

Mr. X

18 USC § 241 - Conspiracy against rights

"If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or
If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured—
They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death."

Someday General Clapper might find himself golfing on a course in Wyoming and then be surrounded by state troopers and militia. Hauling him off in leg irons for violating the 4th Amendment, Wyoming Constitutional right against warrantless searches and seizures, and the above article of the U.S. code. And once that happens, you and the other neo-Tories like Pirrong will have to drag your sorry Constitution burning asses to Canada like the Tories in the 1780s. You will not be welcome in a free America when the states finally rise up against the Washington usurpation and treason against the Constitution.

Mr. X

here's the quote from the original Patron to your foundation:

“For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions."

"Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure--one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
― David Rockefeller

Cathy, you are a globalist minion, game, set match. Pirrong doesn't care if his neighbors get blackbagged and disappeared along with their guns so long as it's in the name of saving us from the Eternal Evil Empire. I can't decide if he's a useful idiot though something he said on Twitter recently about some spooks/mathematicians in the family leads me to think like Obama Pirrong's a CIA/NSA diaper baby. He's already chortled about being a Freemason without denying the charge. I suppose he thinks he's a 33rd degree pure Lucifer light?

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