« Year In Review: Mukkake-Rakers, Cory Linden, Copybot | Main | The Essential Criminality of Open-Source Extremism »

12/15/2007

Comments

Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.

Cocoanut Koala

I very much enjoyed reading this.

It's a wonder they get anything done at all with that ridiculous Tao and so forth.

And of course the idea that there are "no politics" is a joke. Just HAVING that directive means there will be more politics, just underground and way more hypocritical.

About the profitability: I believe SL is already profitable. Philip himself said so in an office hour, over a year ago, when he said they were very close to paying off the investors, and the game itself had long since been profitable.

Then shortly afterwards it was said (and I forget where or when) that the investors had been paid off.

Surviving as a company and being profitable isn't really the obvious test of how good their methods are.

If they don't survive, it is obvious they failed any test.

But even if they do, who's to say that things couldn't have been a lot better if all these lunatic notions about how to run an office had been jettisoned?

It is long past time to get rid of the Tao of Linden. And put up some cubicles, where people can work in peace.

coco

Cocoanut Koala

Strike that "office hour" above - I meant, a Town Hall.

Prokofy Neva

Cocoanut, they are profitable, but are you sure they paid the investors? And...yes, isn't the point that they could be much more profitable?

And...did you notice in Andrew's comments on my blog that I linked here he talks about how profit is a kind of relative not true/false proposition.

I guess only in Silicon Valley...

Nicholaz Beresford

Excellent article Prokofy.

For example I did not know about the Love Machine, although I heard the term a few times without knowing what it was, but had instead been wondering how they are doing their promotions, bonuses etc.

One thing which intrigues me is what you say about the transparency. LL states that this is an ideal which they strive for for the company. I've read a couple of times that Lindens said, that they are more open and transparent as any other company out there.

However, as you also point out, hardly anybody knows anything about the internals of LL. They do publish their statistics, and some of them are making them even look bad, but I think every publicly owned company is more transparent, because they are forced to publish the hard data which their investors need. And with many companies if you know someone working there, you can get a picture how it looks and feels to be there on the inside.

Those stats are like the emails about Cory. Potemkin transparency (to bend another soviet concept).

It's like I wrote about the JIRA. Transparency consists of information and a frame of reference to interpret it. The 2nd is consistently lacking. Or like they age verification PR on the blog, which I found atrociously spin doctored (everybody know it was to cover their asses and most people would simply have accepted it that way, but having it shoved down your throat in that merry "we're doing it for you, kids" form makes you choke).

Your article just made me make that connection between the blog and their internal procedures. I've been long wondering about a certain "i can't really put my finger on it" weirdness in their communication, but it may well be, that they're communicating on the blog just the same way they're doing it inside, which (the communication style) in a way makes sense under the Tao.

In fact it's beginning to make a lot of sense. Like the problems they have communicating with the open source programmers, which they tend to find rude. But open sourcers out there don't need points from the Love Machine ...

Nice food for thought ... thanks for writing ...

Ann Otoole

Why work on the difficult problems at all? You don't have to at Linden Research. Make your task to be the 31337 pwnzr of battlefield every friday during the bf fest at LL. (must be on COD4 by now).

The inherent problem is there is no leadership under this model. Soviet Communism failed. Someone should have got that. But more disconcerting is that a former navy officer/submariner appears to be of a communist mindset. Oh wait.. did anyone ever say exactly who's navy corey was in? As for the assumption someone who was in the navy likes things ship shape... thats crap. every former submariner i have had the displeasure to have to work with in the software business has always had mental problems and refused to do anything they did not feel was important. and they always wrote half-assed poorly thought out hacks to do things and refused to consider any strategic thinking as valid. ever been locked in a tin can 9 months out of the year for 4 or 5 years? duh...

To go where sl needs to be requires direction, requirements, tasking, prioritization, software quality assurance, continuous process improvement (scientific methods) and discipline. none of this is possible under this so-called tao.

So when you are in charge and you need to get things done and you see you have someone usurping your authority and working against you.. what do you do? send the blocker skidding across the parking lot on their ass. its called making hard decisions. such decisions must be made ruthlessly and fast as soon as the problem has made itself evident. not "hope for the best while dancing with teletubbies". No, such decisions needed to be made long ago.

Anyway i hope things improve. not much choice in direction when your nearing the bottom anyway.

Prokofy Neva

Nicholasz, one point I could note is that Linden Lab is not a public company. They aren't required to tell anybody squat, except the IRS. They don't have to reveal half the things that they in fact do reveal.

But given that they hawk all this Future of Work stuff, we expect more of them.

Ann, I find it odd that you would actually find *other* former submariners who are now working as coders in IT firms. Huh? There are lots of them all over?

Crissa

When a group is form, Prok, there is someone who takes on the responsibility for that group. So your several paragraphs about that is false.

Also, very few things in this world were made by single people - American propaganda not withstanding. Real science is done by teams, not individuals. While some guys get their name on the header - they most likely are not working alone. They have students, assistants, peers, a whole world around them involved in their work.

And as for Lindens... They are constantly working. Constantly. Sometimes in groups, sometimes not, and these groups are almost never physically together. They use voice chat to work on projects, they're constantly on IRC to ask questions and give answers, and yes, their offices are open... But I've sat and watched and almost never does someone break the bubble around another without being reached out to first. It's crazy-polite.

I don't know what you have against volunteering. If work goes undone because there is no one to do it or no money to pay someone to do it...

If you enjoy doing something, do that something.

Ann Otoole

yes prok there are a lot of former submariners in the it workplace. not exactly a lot of careers in the "operators of gadgets on a submarine" technology sector. I.e.; so what you operated things on a sub. what good is that on dry land in the civilian sector? yes many many former military have had to retrain after they got out. i mean whats nuclear propulsion anyway? a glorified steam engine lol.

Prokofy Neva

No, it's not false. Because when someone takes on responsibility, they aren't in a position of authority, because a) it's all decentralized and distributed and b) they are shifted to another group another day. So they do not get respect or control.

Proof of that is the way it took the extra-system hiring of Sidewinder Linden to come into this silly system and then finally get Havoc out. Until then, all the "distributed decision-making" wasn't getting it done.

The big lie of this entire clap-trap is that it democratizes and frees people -- but it doesn't, it makes not only anarchy rule, it makes those who illegitimately seized power in anarchy rule -- or misrule. It's a very old story that history has already shown a number of times; dressing it up as a computerized system in the cyber age doesn't make it prettier.

Teams are important, but individual excellence and brilliance are important too, and what this system does is diminish and discourage both individual excellence, at the end of the day, AND individual accountability.

The "constantly working" stuff isn't impressive to me. Studies show, for example, just this week, that students who pull all-nighters do worse than those who study normally on a schedule.

The Stakhanovitism just doesn't work. And what happens when everyone imagines they are in a high-octane beehive of Hive Mind, they become terribly self-congratulatory and don't see obvious disasters -- like, say, Windlight.

Volunteering is a good thing, but that's not what this is about. This is about an ancient male MMORPG ritual that involves vying for pecking order in the sandbox world, and showing off and gaining followers and street cred by doing what amounts to quests for the good of the group. It's a ritual, and therefore not authentic. It's what people do to get in good with the game-gods and get ahead in the system. It's merely a means of advancement for self-interest and for tribal affiliation.

Proof of that is the way the Volunteer Code was written -- see my past post on that.

Cocoanut Koala

No, I'm not sure they paid the investors; I just remember someone important (maybe Philip) saying they did.

This was before I knew to always note DOWN these what to me are obvious and memorable comments, and note their source. (Not that I do it now either, lol.)

The thing in the Town Hall, for instance - I know Philip said that, and it may have been only in the audio version.

And then I remember something about the investors being paid off. But since I don't remember who or when, that is less certain than the first thing, said in the Town Hall. I think it was someone other than Philip, though.

In any case, why would this be hard to imagine, or accept, or whatever? Seems to me reasonable that they would have them paid off by now, particularly since it was a year or so ago when Philip, I know, said they were very close to it.

Why wouldn't they want us to know that they are now profitable, anyhow?

coco

Maklin Deckard

"But open sourcers out there don't need points from the Love Machine ..." _Nicholaz

Would be nice if more of them were like you (you don't seem rude here or your blog), rather than the inflated-ego prima-donna's I have run into in RL work and here in SL. I can understand why the Lindens find most of them to be rude...I do as well and I don't subscribe to the Tao.

Danton Sideways

Good article, Prokofy. The Linden injunction that employees must "be transparent and open" recalls the Calvinist requirement to leave one's curtains open so that the sin police can make sure everyone is behaving themselves. Yet the top management remains opaque. No one knows why Cory left, and there is lots of speculation about whether, and when, Linden Labs paid off their investors. You for one state that the employees working in a huge barn-like space are continually distracted, while Crissa in her comment insists on the contrary that "almost never does someone break the bubble around another without being reached out to first." Which version should we believe?

The Tao of Linden is an example of what the French call "langue de bois," which can be translated by "stonewalling," "doublespeak" or "waffling," though the literal translation "wooden tongue" is easy to understand. The term referred to soviet-era speeches covering up bleak reality with announcements of outstanding performance. Such speeches generally reported false statistics, a practice which gave birth to jokes along the lines of: "studies show that 110% of the population is satisfied." In the absence of free press or democratic elections, which could have provided reality checks, communist bureaucrats actually believed their own hogwash. Amyrta Sen observes that urban Maoist leaders in the fifties truly thought the harvests were fine, when millions of peasants in the countryside were in fact starving to death.

Your "sovietology" makes parallels between soviet collectivism and new-age business collectivism. These parallels are real, in that many Silicon Valley businesses have taken up elements of the old collectivist ethic of the California hippies, and integrated them into their business models. But is sovietology the most pertinent way to analysis a twenty-first century venture capitalist company? An alternative might be to apply a neo-leftist critique, to show how post-modern management only represents a new level of sophistication in old-fashioned capitalistic exploitation. Where Taylorism established methods for controlling employees from without, through objective measurements of performance, post-modern management transfers the control to within the employee's own consciousness, so that each one struggles to measure their own performance against subjective criteria. Thus management requires that employees must take personal responsibility, without however giving them the necessary autonomy really to do so. In such a context, where roles and responsibilities are fluid, if things work out the bosses take the credit, and if they don't, you get the blame.

But, to take a positive approach, how could the Tao of Linden be improved, in the interests of the company itself? You show very well how the double-standard of transparency, applied only to employees but not to management, leads in fact to everyone hiding what they really think, which deprives management of necessary reality checks. A company that wants to know what its employees are thinking should start by writing something in their "Tao" to the effect that "top management believes in the usefulness of free speech within the workplace, and is ready to discuss with employees how this could be guaranteed." Such an explicit engagement would take them at least one step away from the "langue de bois."

SqueezeOne Pow

As someone who knows a few Lindens and ex-Lindens in real life I can say this article would be HILARIOUS if I didn't know you were serious and without a sense of humor.

In all actuality they're just a bunch of "hip" 20-30 somethings that are really into the fact they work for LL and are "on the cusp of a new era" or whatever. See dot com company for more information.

Having worked in a similar environment at Nextel back in 97 I can say that such an environment fosters creativity but has more of a danger of egos getting in the way. LL does have a lack of structure which has obviously turned into a lack of focus. This is why they've had to refocus several times (from "let's get 1 million users!" to "this thing isn't scalable...whoops!" and so on).

If you ever work for a medium to large-sized corporation you'll eventually understand that LL isn't that different from how most corporations actually work these days. They want everyone to WANT to work there instead of just have a job because that means more dedication.

From a business standpoint there's nothing wrong with that. The only issue is when the individual stops being able to separate work time from personal time...but that's on the individual to figure out.

As far as finding out why Cory Linden got fired or whatever, that's actually none of your business so there's no reason to tell you (absolutely no one in the company) about it. That's between Cory and his former employers.

Remember, it's not a country with a government running it. It's a mall/recreational area with a company owning it.

Danton Sideways

Correction: the name of the Nobel Prize economist who studied famines is *Amartya Sen*.

@SqueezeOne –

im in ur base, killin ur d00dz

You've provided additional evidence of stressful working conditions. Leading-edge dotcoms draw on a supply of dedicated 20-30 somethings who want so much to work there that they will accept lack of structure, constantly changing focus and unclear separation of work time from personal time. The ingredients conducive to various forms of exploitation and psychological mistreatment are obviously united here. But such abuse harms the company. It is more important to develop organisational intelligence than it is to squeeze young tekkies dry. And employees who feel emotionally protected will have higher productivity anyway. Human rights is a best business practice.

Verify your Comment

Previewing your Comment

This is only a preview. Your comment has not yet been posted.

Working...
Your comment could not be posted. Error type:
Your comment has been posted. Post another comment

The letters and numbers you entered did not match the image. Please try again.

As a final step before posting your comment, enter the letters and numbers you see in the image below. This prevents automated programs from posting comments.

Having trouble reading this image? View an alternate.

Working...

Post a comment

Your Information

(Name and email address are required. Email address will not be displayed with the comment.)

Blog powered by Typepad

Advertisements

Ads.text

  • Ads Text
    google.com, pub-2776838938932602, DIRECT, f08c47fec0942fa0