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01/26/2009

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Prokofy Neva

Jean Swashbuckler, chronicler of the Nautilus continent, has told me that he thinks the sailors need control over certain parcels to be able to set buoys and also to keep people from touching the sails during races.

Well, that's just it. It's open to the public -- but not really. It's a resident sailing continent that the Lindens have given some free land to, something like those tier-free 4096s for life that the Lindens gave the oldbies.

If you're not in the United Sailing Federation or whatever MTW's group is, it would be interesting to me to see if you could use these "public" sims. I bet not.

That's why it's a shill to claim that it "enhances the user experience" for SL. What it does is enhance MTW's experience and his group's experience and their rentals. If you buy into this group, you get the fete. If you don't, you don't.

Clubside Granville

Where are the rez areas to get into this giant thing? Are there any public (no group required) spots to pull out your giant pirate ship and just sail around? Id like to try it myself just to see how long you can go... and if anyone tells you to go away.

ichabod Antfarm

Clubside,

There is a drop zone on Artificial Isle where you can rez your boats. I just did and now I am going for a sail :-)

http://slurl.com/secondlife/Artificial%20Isle/127/55/22

Ciaran Laval

When Jack kept saying they weren't getting anything for free other than the price of moving sims I pointed out they were getting one hell of a boost for their commercial enterprises. This of course falls on deaf ears, but is a cold hard reality.

Other people are now positioning themselves to be the new Linden buyout, plans are afoot to have united this, that and the other.

I know you've said previously that NCI won't be eaten and Carl has pretty much said he would resist such plans but when you go to somewhere like Caledon Oxbridge and see how well that is setup I find it hard to believe the Lindens wouldn't be interested in their own education hub, especially for noobs. A visit to Ahern the other day was a shocking insight into what has been happening in welcome areas.

Directing noobs to the welcoming and warm hands of NCI would surely be an attraction?

Prokofy Neva

If you look at the track record of what Lindens have GOM'd, the pattern is like this:

o find a business that is either failing, or having some troubles adjusting to issues that are Lab-induced

o find resident owners that will cave and do what the Lindens want

o find an operation that can make the Lab money quickly

NCI doesn't fit that criteria. From what I've seen, they are very strong and well-organized under Carl's stewardship. They adapt to all the crap the Lindens throw at them and all of us. It's a self-financing ecological system that is pretty balanced. It doesn't LL to do anything except maybe allow them into welcome areas with their kiosks.

The also don't have anything immediate to pay out. They may retain somewhat better, but no operation seems to move the needle on retention by such a large percentage that the Lindens drop everything and listen to them.

The Lindens get NCI to handle thousands of their needy customers for free -- and keep many of them. It's a situation even they may be prudent enough to leave alone.

Heidi Stiglitz

"Jean Swashbuckler, chronicler of the Nautilus continent, has told me that he thinks the sailors need control over certain parcels to be able to set buoys and also to keep people from touching the sails during races."

I'm a race director for Starboards Yacht Club. Most of the non-Lindens in the Blake Sea group (myself included) have extremely limited powers. For most of us, the reason we were brought in was to allow us to use the racelines that have been set up in the Blake Sea. The Lindens are looking at giving us the ability to clear out abandoned boats, but with the exception of three of the USS owners, this hasn't happened yet.

"Well, that's just it. It's open to the public -- but not really. It's a resident sailing continent that the Lindens have given some free land to, something like those tier-free 4096s for life that the Lindens gave the oldbies.

If you're not in the United Sailing Federation or whatever MTW's group is, it would be interesting to me to see if you could use these "public" sims. I bet not. "

Anybody can make use any of the sims.

"That's why it's a shill to claim that it "enhances the user experience" for SL. What it does is enhance MTW's experience and his group's experience and their rentals. If you buy into this group, you get the fete. If you don't, you don't."

Since it opened this weekend, Blake Sea has been filled with sailors, aviators, scuba divers, and even beach bums from both the USS and the mainlands that connect to it. There is a new yacht club forming in Nautilus City. Quite honestly, if it doesn't enhance your SL experience, it's because you already aren't interested in what it has to offer.

Prokofy Neva

Heidi,

You shouldn't prevaricate, because we will get the answers from the Lindens anyway.

Number one: do you, or do any of the officers of this group, have ban powers, yes or no. Yes or no, Heidi, don't distract from this all-important issue.

Number two: does MTW and other officers have the power to return non-group prims, i.e. boats that aren't part of the USS and its races, or not. Yes or no, Heidi, let's not distract from this.

You can't both claim there are racing tracks and events and the power to keep them clear AND claim these seas are open to the public to sail in. Because that's bullshit. If they interfere with the USS races, it looks to me like they will be unceremoniously cleared away as a non-group prim. Neither you nor the Lindens have been straightforward about this, and you need to be, and stop dancing around this topic.

Please don't tell me the usual creator-fascist crap about "if you don't like it, leave". I am a resident and business in Nautilus. I was there before you were, you bitch. Don't talk to me like that, you are totally fucked for doing that. I'm one of the people who upholds property values so you and your big-ass precious yacht-club would have any value in the first place. So don't talk down to me.

I've flown around and tried to rez boats. While auto return is put on 60 minutes on some of the Blake Sea sims, you can't rez anything if you are not in the group. While there may be a few sims with public launches that are open to anyone to rez -- we're told that -- they aren't so findable. I flew around for more than an hour exploring, and didn't find them.

Let's see if any of the scuba divers or beach bums interfere with your races. That's when the pedal hits the medal. The USS has a schedule chock-full of races. This entire caper was designed to replace the openspace sims they used for their races, and make the Lindens pay for their races -- or, they pouted, they'd quit and leave for OpenSim.

So let's test that entire bullshit, shall we? Either it's always open for the public, or it's not. If it is only open to the public when the precious USS Yacht Club isn't having races, then it's not open to the public -- except on sufferance.

Internationalist Ghost

My friend Prokofy and your able assistant ichabod Antfarm, I wish to alert you both to the fact I believe the occult and indeed the ways of Satan and most likely the leftist dogma associated with the proven failed system of centralized control called Communism and practiced in the former USSR and still practiced by Linden Labs, is active and flourishing right here in Second Life.

I submit as proof of this the increasing number of builders who can manage to use the "torus" with apparent "skill". As those of us who refuse to dabble in the "black arts" or sell out to the "ways of evil" know the "torus" is a savage beast. Unpredictable and unable to be understood by normal mortals so what other explanation can there be but an unholy alliance between those who build the ease using the "torus" and the Prince of Darkness.

God Bless and Save America the only beacon of hope in the increasingly socialist global mire that is today's society.

Prokofy Neva

Actually, I'm on to all these Bolshevik tricks and I have devised a secret contorted torus counterweapon that is extremely sophisticated and is now handily defeaten the communist baccilae everywhere.

But I dare not say more.

P.S. God Bless America indeed.

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