So this tenant comes and rents the waterfront, and puts up a house boat that is really too large for the lot -- it could fit, but she doesn't bother to fit it straight, she puts it cross-wise spanning three lots -- her own, the commons, and neighbours on two sides.
I first noticed that there was furniture all over the place in the air. Well, that happens, SL acts up, or people are new at putting out furniture, or whatever, I return it, not even with a comment. Why bother?
Then I notice the skewed boat, and I think I should just return that as well since soon, other tenants will start complaining. But instead, I send an IM explaining how to turn on property lines and keep within the lines. I send *another* IM, which I see is wiped out, possibly because installing Firestorm, in order to put some 1024 textures into a homestead (SL only takes 512), evidently wipes out chat notecards on your hard drive, just like SL does. I periodically save the chat for that reason.
So a week goes by, this person does not move their boat, likely they'll claim that "messages cap," but honestly, I'm done. These are cheap rentals, it is a virtual world, put your boat out right. I return it -- this gets your attention finally. So I return it, I explain once again that she needs to colour inside the lines, and sure enough she begins screaming and raging and sending me TPs and going on and on - because it's apparently a language and situation misunderstanding. She thinks I am evicting her even though she just paid for another week.
But since her rental box remains paid, and she is still in the group, obviously she's not evicted. I keep trying to explain about the boat and the lines -- it just never penetrates. First I try Portugese, as many tenants who speak Portuguese have this issue, but then it turns out it's Spanish, and they also have this issue. It gets tiresome. I've developed a theory about people from big countries -- and that would be Texas, Brazil, Australia, etc. having trouble staying within small lots and keeping to prim limits whereas people from the UK, Japan, Italy, don't seem to have this problem. Except the theory is more often disproved in the breech, and I dunno, it tends to be mainly Brazilian and Spanish who do this, often pleading language barriers and force-porting you to talk to them because Google appliance long since ceased working inworld and the only translators they have need you to be in room chat with them. I refuse force ports and I demand that people use Google translate just like I use Google translate, you know? I'm a translator by profession. Google translate can be very terrible (Yandex.ru is so much better for Russian, for example, and there are other sites that are good for the Romance languages), but for a few sentences, it's more or less comprehensible. It means tabbing down your SL, going to Google Translate, and pasting it in. Not rocket science. So don't be lazy, if I can do it, you can do it. So here's the kind of insanity that ensures:
First, the profile:
Biography
Nací en SL el 17 de Noviembre del 2011
El alma es la misma en SL Y RL ,al menos en mi caso :)
«╬♥ɦɑGѳ ʆѳ QUɛ ɱɛ ɦɑCɛ ԲɛʆIZ,
ɛรTѳY Cѳɳ QUIɛɳ ɱɛ ɦɑCɛ รѳɳʀɛIʀ♥╬«
ஐRIø ŧαηŧø Cøмø RєsρIRøஐ
«╬♥ Y ɑɱѳ TɑɳTѳ Cѳɱѳ ѵIѵѳ..=)♥╬«
So note the 2011 birth date but actually on the profile the system puts the birth at April 19, 2013. So either she has come back after a long time (doesn't seem so given the profile with the feed going back for months). Did she buy the account from someb0dy else? Again, doesn't seem so. But anyway, here's the insanity:
[2020/05/02 09:31] Prokofy Neva: Hi, welcome to Ravenglass Rentals! I added you to resident powers in the group. Switch to the title "resident" on the group menu to access ban, media, set landing, change parcel etc
[2020/05/02 09:31] Prokofy Neva: This will require relogging
[2020/05/02 09:32] Second Life: Inventory item 'Ravenglass Rentals Quickstart' offered
[2020/05/02 09:33] Second Life: Inventory item 'News from Ravenglass Rentals April 27, 2020' offered
[2020/05/02 09:33] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): Can i put my music?
[2020/05/02 09:35] Prokofy Neva: yes after you switch the group tag to resident
[2020/05/02 09:36] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): how can i do it
[2020/05/02 09:36] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): excuse me i dont know about
[2020/05/02 09:36] Second Life: Inventory item 'NEW How to Change Group Title' offered
[2020/05/02 09:46] Prokofy Neva: go on the first page of the group menu and half way down see "title" and toggle it to "resident" -- but first relog
[2020/05/04 20:20] Prokofy Neva: Hi, can you straighten out your house so it is on the parcel you are renting and not on the commons? To see the parcel boundaries, wear the group tag and select world/show/property lines.
[2020/05/04 20:20] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): User not online - message will be stored and delivered later.
[2020/05/04 20:24] Prokofy Neva: Also I'm returning your furniture from other parcels, you have to stay on the parcel you are renting on the waterfrontt and use only 375 prims.
[2020/05/04 20:24] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): User not online - message will be stored and delivered later.
[2020/05/14 21:40] Second Life: secondlife:///app/agent/133b8361-ce4c-4168-9e54-d51d2de044b6/completename paid you L$265.
[2020/05/15 00:51] Prokofy Neva: Hi, I'm returning your house because you are not answering my messages that your house is overlapping several other parcels rented by others -- you need to straighten it out and just stay on the parcel you're renting. While wearing the group tag, turn on world/show/parcel boundaries and you can see the aqua lines, put your boat out into the water, it will fit
[2020/05/15 00:53] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): good nigth
[2020/05/15 00:53] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): you send me my things
[2020/05/15 00:54] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): and i today i give you a week more
[2020/05/15 00:54] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): a new week
[2020/05/15 00:54] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): what happened
[2020/05/15 00:54] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): please
[2020/05/15 00:54] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): why you did it
[2020/05/15 00:56] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): i paid tonigth
[2020/05/15 00:56] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): come and read
[2020/05/15 00:56] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): my box
[2020/05/15 00:57] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): time remaining:7 days,22 hours,25 minutes
[2020/05/15 00:57] Second Life: secondlife:///app/agent/133b8361-ce4c-4168-9e54-d51d2de044b6/about has offered to teleport you to their location:
"Ven conmigo a Ravenglass
http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Ravenglass/135/134/22”
<icon>Parcel_M_Dark</icon> - Moderate
[2020/05/15 00:57] Second Life: secondlife:///app/agent/133b8361-ce4c-4168-9e54-d51d2de044b6/about has offered to teleport you to their location:
"Ven conmigo a Ravenglass
http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Ravenglass/135/134/22”
<icon>Parcel_M_Dark</icon> - Moderate
[2020/05/15 00:57] Second Life: secondlife:///app/agent/133b8361-ce4c-4168-9e54-d51d2de044b6/about has offered to teleport you to their location:
"Ven conmigo a Ravenglass
http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Ravenglass/135/134/22”
<icon>Parcel_M_Dark</icon> - Moderate
[2020/05/15 00:59] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): Do you know the work it took me to learn to put a house and everything in its place?
[2020/05/15 01:00] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): at least give me an answer
or give me back the money I paid and I will leave, you should first verify that I paid you before returning my things, I hope I can get them back.
[2020/05/15 01:00] Second Life: secondlife:///app/agent/133b8361-ce4c-4168-9e54-d51d2de044b6/about has offered to teleport you to their location:
"Ven conmigo a Ravenglass
http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Ravenglass/135/134/22”
<icon>Parcel_M_Dark</icon> - Moderate
[2020/05/15 01:01] Second Life: secondlife:///app/agent/133b8361-ce4c-4168-9e54-d51d2de044b6/about has offered to teleport you to their location:
"come and see my box time remaining
http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Ravenglass/135/134/22”
<icon>Parcel_M_Dark</icon> - Moderate
[2020/05/15 01:01] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): heyyyy
[2020/05/15 01:03] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): im so angry with you
[2020/05/15 01:03] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): better dont come
[2020/05/15 01:05] Prokofy Neva: get a translator, you are not understanding
[2020/05/15 01:05] Prokofy Neva: it is not about time remaining
[2020/05/15 01:05] Prokofy Neva: it is about HOW YOUR HOUSE IS PLACED
[2020/05/15 01:05] Prokofy Neva: put your house on STRAIGHT on the lot
[2020/05/15 01:05] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): i donthave a horse
[2020/05/15 01:05] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no horse
[2020/05/15 01:05] Prokofy Neva: be angry all you like but you are trespassing on other people's lots
[2020/05/15 01:05] Prokofy Neva: HOUSE dear
[2020/05/15 01:05] Prokofy Neva: HOUSE
[2020/05/15 01:05] Prokofy Neva: YOUR HOUSE
[2020/05/15 01:05] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): first time i learn to put
[2020/05/15 01:05] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): it
[2020/05/15 01:06] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): you could have told me and took everything
[2020/05/15 01:06] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): ahora no encuentro mi lampara en mis cosas
[2020/05/15 01:06] Prokofy Neva: O barco da sua casa está atravessando 3 lotes e está invadindo o aluguel de outras pessoas. Você precisa arrumar sua casa até o fim. Não é hora, e não é sobre cavalos. Pedi duas vezes e você ignorou ou não entendeu, então tive que voltar para sua casa, no final.
[2020/05/15 01:07] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): I can't find my lamp on these things, plus you don't have exactly regular terrain
[2020/05/15 01:07] Prokofy Neva: I told you twice in IMs in the last week, you didn't get or didn't understand, so put it straight or refund, that's it
[2020/05/15 01:07] Prokofy Neva: I didn't take anything, it is returned to lost and found
[2020/05/15 01:07] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): because you allow me to pay you then
[2020/05/15 01:07] Prokofy Neva: https://translate.google.com/
[2020/05/15 01:08] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): please give me back my money and I'll go
[2020/05/15 01:08] Prokofy Neva: um, I don't do anything, if you rent a parcel, you have to stay on that parcel only, not go sideways across 3 parcels and annoy other people
[2020/05/15 01:08] Prokofy Neva: if you can't figure out how to put your house straight click the same box you paid and select "refund"
[2020/05/15 01:08] Prokofy Neva: my God this shouldn't be so hard, use a translator, I do
[2020/05/15 01:08] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): I tried to see the shape of your terrain, but it is very irregular
[2020/05/15 01:09] Prokofy Neva: it's a square dearie pie
[2020/05/15 01:09] Prokofy Neva: turn on world/show/property boundaries and put it out into the water, thousands of other people have done so
[2020/05/15 01:09] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): I'm sorry if I crossed other people's lines
[2020/05/15 01:09] Prokofy Neva: you are not special
[2020/05/15 01:09] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): I'm new putting houses, remember that I didn't even know how to take your group
[2020/05/15 01:10] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): you should have asked me today not to pay you and take my things
[2020/05/15 01:11] Prokofy Neva: Busque en la carpeta de objetos perdidos los artículos devueltos. Es muy fácil poner tu casa directamente en el agua, es una casa de botes, Dios mío, no es difícil, pregunté varias veces y cuando me ignoras, la devuelvo porque otros están enojados, al final basta\
[2020/05/15 01:11] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): do not evict me you are a bad person please give me back my money to put my house in another place, it is fair, I do not have another house
[2020/05/15 01:11] Prokofy Neva: Por última vez, no seas perezoso, usa un traductor, si puedo hacerlo, puedes hacerlo. No tomé tus cosas. Los devolví. ¡Hola! Están en la carpeta de objetos perdidos. El fin
[2020/05/15 01:12] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): esta bien
[2020/05/15 01:12] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): debiste decirme que me echarías de aquí
[2020/05/15 01:12] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): te pagué
[2020/05/15 01:12] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): sin saber
[2020/05/15 01:12] Prokofy Neva: Y una vez más, y esta es la última vez que hablaré con usted, si no puede resolver cómo arreglar una casa, haga clic en LA MISMA CAJA QUE PAGÓ, ¡HOLA! que tiene REEMBOLSO como un botón. Se cobra una tarifa de cancelación porque se va temprano
[2020/05/15 01:12] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): ahora devuelveme mi dinero no tengo otra casa más pequeña
[2020/05/15 01:12] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): ok adios
[2020/05/15 01:13] Prokofy Neva: No te echan de la casa de muñecas, tu casa es devuelta porque no pudiste mantenerla en el lote que alquilaste
[2020/05/15 01:13] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no dice nada de reembolso
[2020/05/15 01:13] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): es que no sé hacerlo
[2020/05/15 01:13] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): traté pero tiene una forma irregular
[2020/05/15 01:13] Prokofy Neva: You must be blind, click on the box, it says refund, now I"m truly done with you bye
[2020/05/15 01:14] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no puedo
[2020/05/15 01:14] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no sé hacerlo
[2020/05/15 01:15] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): por favor
[2020/05/15 01:15] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): es lo ultimo que haces por mi
[2020/05/15 01:15] Prokofy Neva: You are used to being a helpless idiot but you should stop
[2020/05/15 01:15] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): ayudame
[2020/05/15 01:15] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no sé hacerlo
[2020/05/15 01:15] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): solo dice pagar
[2020/05/15 01:15] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no reembolso
[2020/05/15 01:15] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): si doy clic
[2020/05/15 01:16] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): porque eres malo?
[2020/05/15 01:16] Prokofy Neva: what is irregular about that square?
This is where I go to the lot, put out a prim and size it to the lot -- there is nothing irregular about it. It has one section at the very tip where about 16m is gone from the corner in the water but that shouldn't matter.
[2020/05/15 01:16] Prokofy Neva: you're just being lazy and not turning on the property lines
[2020/05/15 01:16] Prokofy Neva: it is a perfect square
[2020/05/15 01:16] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): rectangular
Oh, smart one, after all. Yes it's not "square" but "rectangular" technically but...not irregular, you know? I mean, not some jagged thing or a triangle LOL.
So you might want to get out Google Translate yourself for the rest here:
[2020/05/15 01:16] Prokofy Neva: like your house boat is rectangular
[2020/05/15 01:16] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): irregular here
[2020/05/15 01:16] Prokofy Neva: so if you are not smart enought to figure out a rectangular house boat on a rectangle, I can't help you
[2020/05/15 01:17] Prokofy Neva: bye
[2020/05/15 01:17] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): por favor ayudame
[2020/05/15 01:17] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no fuiste nuevo en second life alguna vez
[2020/05/15 01:17] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): y necesitaste ayuda?
That last for those too lazy to go to Google translate: "You were never new to Second Life and needed help?"
But...she's not new to SL. So...hmmm...
[2020/05/15 01:18] Prokofy Neva: HAGA CLIC EN LA MISMA CAJA QUE PAGÓ Y ENCUENTRA EL REEMBOLSO, ES UNA OPCIÓN, MIRE DE NUEVO Y NO SEA ESTÚPIDO
[2020/05/15 01:29] Second Life: Inventory item 'What do you call this' offered
[2020/05/15 01:30] Second Life: secondlife:///app/agent/133b8361-ce4c-4168-9e54-d51d2de044b6/about has given you this texture:
secondlife:///app/inventory/18c5b5f5-41f3-af1d-c3bd-2c6fb4084c6a/select?name=DSC_1082
Here she shows me a picture of how she is seeing the rental box supposedly:
[2020/05/15 01:30] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): SEE THE PIC PLEASE
[2020/05/15 01:30] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): y no me insultes
[2020/05/15 01:30] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no dice reembolso omg
[2020/05/15 01:30] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): T.T
[2020/05/15 01:32] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): SI VES LA FOTO TE DAS CUENTA QUE NO TENGO ESA OPCIÓN
[2020/05/15 01:33] Prokofy Neva: ummmmm what do you think "cancelar" means
[2020/05/15 01:33] Prokofy Neva: lol
[2020/05/15 01:33] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): si das clic en cancelar
[2020/05/15 01:33] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): se cierra
[2020/05/15 01:33] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): y quiere decir que no quiero pagar
[2020/05/15 01:33] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): cancelar
[2020/05/15 01:33] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no es otra cosa
[2020/05/15 01:33] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): es para cancelar la operación
[2020/05/15 01:33] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): y no pagarte
[2020/05/15 01:34] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): porqué no lo cancelé antes
[2020/05/15 01:34] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): omg
Here she seems to indicate that "cancel" just means cancel whatever operation you started. Except...the menu in the original English doesn't have such a "cancel". Apparently she never clicked on it to actually see what happened -- people are learnedly helpless in that way.
Possibly there really is a problem with how translated viewers render things but I have to wonder. BTW this looks like the blue of Firestorm and not the SL viewer but stay tuned...
[2020/05/15 01:34] Prokofy Neva: it's not my fault if your viewer doesn't translate things clearly, go and complain to Firestorm not me
[2020/05/15 01:34] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no abre otras ventanas
[2020/05/15 01:35] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): de verdad eres poco amable,solo devuelveme el dinero no puedo instalar otro visor
[2020/05/15 01:35] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): es lo justo
[2020/05/15 01:35] Prokofy Neva: ask Firestorm, not me, or download the regular viewer and then you'll see it
[2020/05/15 01:36] Prokofy Neva: please explain why zillions of other people with other language viewers including Spanish are able to refund all the time
[2020/05/15 01:36] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): No te quedes con mi dinero,yo no tengo dinero en sl para poner ahora mi casa en otro lugar ,por favor
[2020/05/15 01:37] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no deseo molestar a nadie
[2020/05/15 01:37] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): para eso es SL
[2020/05/15 01:37] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): PARA ESTAR TRANQUILO
[2020/05/15 01:37] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): Y SI MOLESTÉ A LAGUIEN NO FUE MI INTENCIÓN
[2020/05/15 01:37] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): SOLO DEBISTE DECIRME
[2020/05/15 01:37] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): y me iba tranquila
[2020/05/15 01:37] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): sin pagarte claro
[2020/05/15 01:38] Prokofy Neva: First, I need an apology for all the screaming and false statements you have made when all I have done is ask you to put your house straight
[2020/05/15 01:38] Prokofy Neva: Twice I sent you messages to move your house -- you ignored them
[2020/05/15 01:39] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): ya te dije que no quise molestar a nedie
[2020/05/15 01:39] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): nadie
[2020/05/15 01:39] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): que lo hice sin querer
[2020/05/15 01:39] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): porque no sé poner casas
[2020/05/15 01:39] Prokofy Neva: Here is a copy:
[2020/05/15 01:39] Prokofy Neva: Hi, can you straighten out your house so it is on the parcel you are renting and not on the commons? To see the parcel boundaries, wear the group tag and select world/show/property lines.
[2020/05/04 20:20] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): User not online - message will be stored and delivered later.
[2020/05/04 20:24] Prokofy Neva: Also I'm returning your furniture from other parcels, you have to stay on the parcel you are renting on the waterfrontt and use only 375 prims.
[2020/05/15 01:39] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): soy una ignirante de eso
[2020/05/15 01:39] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): ignorante de eso
[2020/05/15 01:39] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): pero ya te había pagado
[2020/05/15 01:39] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): a esa hora
[2020/05/15 01:40] Prokofy Neva: your furniture was all over the sim, in the sky, etc. That happens with newbies, I understand, I returned it, but I asked you twice to move your house, it's not that hard, learn how to do it
[2020/05/15 01:40] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): porque no me mandaste tp
[2020/05/15 01:40] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): y yo sacaba mi casa
[2020/05/15 01:40] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): disculpame
[2020/05/15 01:40] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): por favor si no lo vi
[2020/05/15 01:40] Prokofy Neva: it is not about payment, it's about straightening your house
[2020/05/15 01:40] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): pero tú tampoco fuiste claro
[2020/05/15 01:40] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): siendo yo una ignrante aquí
[2020/05/15 01:40] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): ignorante
[2020/05/15 01:41] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): debiste de tenerme paciencia y echarme con modales
[2020/05/15 01:41] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no desalojarme
[2020/05/15 01:41] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): por favor debo buscar otro lugar donde no me insulten
[2020/05/15 01:41] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): devuelveme mi dinero
[2020/05/15 01:41] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): y no te molestaré más
[2020/05/15 01:42] Prokofy Neva: I told you twice, you ignored me, the only way to get people to listen is to return their house, it's a virtual world, not a big idea, you get it, you put it out right next time
[2020/05/15 01:42] Prokofy Neva: if you rage and scream and make false accusations, I don't respond
[2020/05/15 01:42] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): omg
[2020/05/15 01:42] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no te hice falsas acusaciones
[2020/05/15 01:42] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no te pasa que estas conectado
[2020/05/15 01:42] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): sl
[2020/05/15 01:42] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): y tambien trabajas real life
[2020/05/15 01:43] Prokofy Neva: what kind of viewer do you have
[2020/05/15 01:43] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): sl
[2020/05/15 01:43] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): SL
[2020/05/15 01:43] Prokofy Neva: then how is it possible that it can't show the menu with refund?
[2020/05/15 01:43] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): EL UNICO QUE ADMITE MI LAPTOP
[2020/05/15 01:43] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no lo sé
[2020/05/15 01:43] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): ya te lo mostré
[2020/05/15 01:43] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no miento
[2020/05/15 01:43] Prokofy Neva: left-click on the box
[2020/05/15 01:43] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): y tampoco soy estúpida
[2020/05/15 01:43] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): como me dijiste
[2020/05/15 01:44] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): same
[2020/05/15 01:44] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): sigue igual
[2020/05/15 01:44] Prokofy Neva: I'm going to go download the Spanish language SL viewer now and see what it says
[2020/05/15 01:44] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): quieres que llore?
[2020/05/15 01:44] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): omg
[2020/05/15 01:44] Prokofy Neva: because it looks to me like you have Firestorm not the SL viewer
[2020/05/15 01:44] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): i have sl
[2020/05/15 01:44] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): el que puedo poner
[2020/05/15 01:44] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no sé otro
[2020/05/15 01:44] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): gracias
[2020/05/15 01:44] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): comprobarás que no miento
[2020/05/15 01:45] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): y lloraré de alegría
[2020/05/15 01:45] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): nunca me desalojaron en real life
[2020/05/15 01:45] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): y se siente horrible
[2020/05/15 01:45] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): aquí
[2020/05/15 01:45] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): gracias por el aprendizaje
[2020/05/15 01:45] Prokofy Neva: You're not evicted dearie pie
[2020/05/15 01:46] Prokofy Neva: your house is returned because it's spread across three lots
[2020/05/15 01:46] Prokofy Neva: I will return on the Spanish viewer and look
[2020/05/15 01:49] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): hey vas a ayudarme ya viste en el visor?
[2020/05/15 01:50] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): dime
[2020/05/15 01:51] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): comprobaste que te dije la verdad y no soy estúpida por favor
[2020/05/15 01:59] Second Life: Inventory item 'Spanish Viewer' offered
So, out of curiosity, I go download the viewer so that I can put the "Spanish" option when it lets you change the language (you can't do that when it's already working). And sure enough, it's exactly the same -- and the picture does not look like what she is showing - when I test it on another rental box near my house:
[2020/05/15 01:59] Prokofy Neva: it's exactly the same on the Spanish viewer
[2020/05/15 02:00] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): pero debes darle clic
[2020/05/15 02:00] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): a una caja
[2020/05/15 02:00] Prokofy Neva: It's exactly the same on Firestorm
I then also logged on to Firestorm just to see if somehow it does look different even in the English -- you see how it's blue, not brown, but it still has REFUND:
[2020/05/15 02:00] Prokofy Neva: you click on it, you get the menu
[2020/05/15 02:00] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): para comprobar que es cierto
[2020/05/15 02:00] Second Life: Inventory item '2020-05-15 (2)' offered
[2020/05/15 02:00] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): :(
[2020/05/15 02:00] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no lo entiendes no se ve eso
[2020/05/15 02:00] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): en mi pantalla
[2020/05/15 02:00] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): para nada
[2020/05/15 02:01] Prokofy Neva: well then it's not the SL viewer
[2020/05/15 02:01] Prokofy Neva: and not Firestorm
[2020/05/15 02:01] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): tengo visor sl
[2020/05/15 02:01] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): de la mano verde
[2020/05/15 02:01] Prokofy Neva: I just downloaded the Spanish language viewer, and it is exactly the same
[2020/05/15 02:01] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no
[2020/05/15 02:01] Prokofy Neva: so call a friend who has the same viewer as you and have them try it
[2020/05/15 02:01] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no voy a discutir
[2020/05/15 02:01] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): de verdad me haces sentir mal
[2020/05/15 02:01] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): me insutas
[2020/05/15 02:01] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no me crees
[2020/05/15 02:01] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): y solo renté tu lugar
[2020/05/15 02:02] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): pensando que eres una persona amable
[2020/05/15 02:02] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): y que era un hermoso lugar
[2020/05/15 02:02] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no quise molestar a nadie
[2020/05/15 02:02] Prokofy Neva: well that's ridiculous, there's something about it you're not understanding, or you don't have a real SL viewer, but regardless, I need an apology for your false statements, then I can give you a refund, but it's stupid, everybody gets a refund, no matter what viewer
[2020/05/15 02:03] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): pero ya me disculpé
[2020/05/15 02:03] Second Life: secondlife:///app/agent/133b8361-ce4c-4168-9e54-d51d2de044b6/about has given you this texture:
secondlife:///app/inventory/09a24f94-2167-c24f-7610-da9d6f76384b/select?name=2020-05-15%20%282%29
[2020/05/15 02:03] Prokofy Neva: I am a kind person and it is a beautiful place but you are raging and being crazy and if we're going to play macho culture here as you seem to want to play, I need an apology
Normally I wouldn't bother with all this. But I think it's instructive to give people back exactly the cultural methods they are using on you so that they get a taste of their own medicine. The cultural methods are: exaggeration, rage, repetition, deliberate refusal not to comprehend what is said even at the moment, more rage, etc. etc. Drama. Striking a tragic pose. I mean, your house was returned because it went on other tenants' land and they will be annoyed when they log on and see it encroaching. So it's returned, since 2 messages about this didn't do the trick. That's all. It's not an insult, it's not mean, it's not rude, it's just your house is returned because it's taking up 3 spaces -- plus the commons -- and you need to learn how to colour inside the lines LOL.
[2020/05/15 02:03] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): y tú también me debes una disculpa
[2020/05/15 02:03] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): por insultarme
[2020/05/15 02:03] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): yo nunca te insulté
[2020/05/15 02:04] Prokofy Neva: all I have done is follow the rules by returning a house taking up 3 lots, and returning furniture scattered all over the sim, you are not evicted, you are not removed from the group, you just got your house returned because you refused to pay attention to messages sent to you twice
[2020/05/15 02:04] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): lee cómo me trataste tú
[2020/05/15 02:04] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): y eso que soy mujer
[2020/05/15 02:04] Prokofy Neva: if you go on and on about "insulting" instead of apologizing, you will not get a refund
[2020/05/15 02:04] Prokofy Neva: it's that simple
Again, while some are going to find this cruel and unreasonable, I would invite you to consider that it is merely mirroring the cruel, unreasonable -- and crazy -- dialogue from this creature up to now. The striking of the tragic pose; the assumption of ill will; the refusal to comprehend when explained over and over -- it's a type of person and type of culture and I think it's useful to counter it when it occurs. I don't always have time for this, but I decided -- enough.
[2020/05/15 02:04] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): ya te dije que me disculpes
[2020/05/15 02:04] Prokofy Neva: I'm really tried of providing cheap rentals to people and then putting up with the enormous amount of bullshit that I put up with here
[2020/05/15 02:04] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): cómo deseas que te pida disculpas
[2020/05/15 02:04] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no ´se
[2020/05/15 02:05] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): lo sé
[2020/05/15 02:05] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): eres amable
[2020/05/15 02:05] Prokofy Neva: the picture shows "refund time" on it, my God, click on that button
[2020/05/15 02:05] Prokofy Neva: this is insanity
[2020/05/15 02:05] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): pero no sé porque me odias
[2020/05/15 02:05] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no sale nada
[2020/05/15 02:05] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): ya no discutas
[2020/05/15 02:05] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): me iré
[2020/05/15 02:05] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): sin mi dinero
[2020/05/15 02:05] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no puedo contigo
[2020/05/15 02:05] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): eres intolerante
[2020/05/15 02:06] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): y haces algo injusto
[2020/05/15 02:06] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no soy mala persona
[2020/05/15 02:06] Prokofy Neva: Instead of raging and carrying on with craziness and ddrama, you just have to say "I'm sorry, I didn't understand, could I get a refund" basta
[2020/05/15 02:06] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): ya me disculp
[2020/05/15 02:06] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): te pedíi disculpas
[2020/05/15 02:06] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): y ya me voy
[2020/05/15 02:06] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): que fea experiencia en sl
[2020/05/15 02:07] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): ya te dije eso
[2020/05/15 02:07] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): pero en español
[2020/05/15 02:07] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): como tres veces
[2020/05/15 02:07] Prokofy Neva: OK I'm glad you apologized
[2020/05/15 02:07] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): tú dijiste que escriba en español
[2020/05/15 02:07] Prokofy Neva: you have not had ugly experience, but a learning experience
[2020/05/15 02:07] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no en ingles
[2020/05/15 02:07] Prokofy Neva: you have to look at the borders and place your house inside them
[2020/05/15 02:07] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no sabía ver los bordes
[2020/05/15 02:07] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): lo siento
[2020/05/15 02:08] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): intenté que esté en el agua
[2020/05/15 02:08] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): para no afectar a nadie
[2020/05/15 02:08] Prokofy Neva: I sent you the instructions on May 4
[2020/05/15 02:08] Prokofy Neva: turn on world/show/property borders
[2020/05/15 02:08] Prokofy Neva: I've said this multiple times and you refuse to read it and comprehend it
[2020/05/15 02:08] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): lo siento no lo leí
[2020/05/15 02:08] Prokofy Neva: use a translator if someone sends a message you can't read
[2020/05/15 02:09] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): no me negue
[2020/05/15 02:09] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): solo lo olvidé
[2020/05/15 02:09] Prokofy Neva: it's not about me
[2020/05/15 02:09] Prokofy Neva: it's about any rentals you are in, you need to learn how to see borders
[2020/05/15 02:09] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): si gracias
[2020/05/15 02:09] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): cómo
[2020/05/15 02:09] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): yo apunté y salieron unas líneas amarillas
[2020/05/15 02:09] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): y traté de meterla allí
[2020/05/15 02:10] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): pero había partes deformes
[2020/05/15 02:11] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): gracias
[2020/05/15 02:11] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): por la mala experiencia
[2020/05/15 02:11] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): adios
[2020/05/15 02:11] ღYєssнiaღ (yessikangel): yome fui no me botaste
[2020/05/15 02:13] Prokofy Neva: Nací en SL el 17 de Noviembre del 2011
[2020/05/15 02:13] Prokofy Neva: April 19, 2013
[2020/05/15 02:13] Prokofy Neva: um, not exactly a newbie dearie
When I finally focused on this person's dates, I had to wonder how -- in 9 long years (2011) or 6 long years (2013) she never put down a house or paid a rental box and got a refund. There's something very odd about this. It's either a bold lie, or it's an account that has been sold (which goes against the TOS as far as I know). Yet she spoke of a lamp she got long ago that was lost -- so it's not a purchased account, apparently. She claimed she was just learning to put out a house and furniture, but that seems impossible that she never did either of these things in 9 years or 6 years (if this is a newer account she came back on). She keeps speaking Spanish instead of using Google to translate -- and seemingly sees the word "HOUSE" as "HORSE" but really? Yet she knows the word "rectangular"? Something doesn't add up here...So it's just hard to know what to think -- but often I find the more the bluster and drama and crazy, the more actually guilty the person is, of lying.
So then comes this:
[02:29] yessikangel: puedes revisar si se quedó por el terreno mi lampara por favor la tengo hace 8 años y no está en objetos perdidos ya saqué todo en un sandbox,si puedes te lo agradeceré es importante para mí Lamp
Translation:
you can check if my lamp stayed on the ground please I have it 8 years ago and it is not in lost objects I already took everything out in a sandbox, if you can I will thank you it is important for me Lamp
[02:32] yessikangel: sé que no te gusta el drama aquí pero me regaló esal+ampara mi madre SL y ella ya murió real life,tal vez me ayudes si puedes encontrarla.gracias.
Google translate:
I know you don't like the drama here but she gave me esal + for my mother SL and she has already died real life, maybe you can help me if you can find her. Thank you.
[02:49] Prokofy Neva: There is no way I can take your objects. All of your objects on your parcel rented have been returned to lost & found. Try clearing cache and re-logging. Take everything out as it returns in batches and it could be named one thing but contain 10 things. If you still can't find it file a ticket with Linden Lab with the precise name of the object.
[02:56] yessikangel: ok muchas gracias.
So now you see this tragic story has become even more tragic -- a precious lamp from a mother in SL who died in real life has been lost because cruel Prokofy returned a house that was straddling multiple parcels.
I dare say most landlords would have returned everything from the sim at the first sight of a chair in the air, and likely evicted and banned the person. I at least sent messages, and 10 days passed and when finally I saw it wasn't cured, I took action.
I have lost many precious things in SL - many - and so have others, inventory is always unstable and things are lost all the time. I had a tenant recently actually get the Lindens to reimburse her for something that was lost that she was able to identify and file a ticket about quickly. Something of sentimental value can't be replaced, of course.
So everything is terrible, and the world is sad, but let me tell you about something so far worse that I hope you will forget everything about me or this girl.
UPDATE
[11:16] yessikangel: (Saved Fri May 15 04:56:10 2020)hi
[11:16] yessikangel: (Saved Fri May 15 04:57:23 2020)Espero puedas ser justo,me avisas si te vas a disculpar por haberme llamado estúpida ,yo sí me disculpé porque creí que tú me echaste sin avisarme.
[11:20] Prokofy Neva: I never apologize for not doing anything wrong. Did you find your lamp?
[11:20] yessikangel: muacks
[11:20] yessikangel: .9
[11:20] yessikangel: YES
[11:20] yessikangel: I DID
[11:20] yessikangel: :)
[11:20] yessikangel: and excuse me again
[11:20] yessikangel: thank you
[11:22] Prokofy Neva: Well that's good, be happy you didn't lose your mother or baby like these women did https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-attacks-hospital-insight/maternity-ward-massacre-shakes-afghanistan-and-its-peace-process-idUSKBN22P2F5 and that you are not sick or dead of COVID but a sex worker in a virtual world where you can look beautiful and pretend you are nicer than you are. Bye!
[11:22] yessikangel: wait
[11:22] yessikangel: o.o
[11:23] yessikangel: i need traslate it
[11:23] yessikangel: oh
[11:27] yessikangel: I am not what you think I just like the Arab culture, I am a real life shy dance teacher and here I enjoy music and dance as well as visiting beautiful places, now I work from home with my little students and I am a beautiful person IN REAL LIFE not as beautiful as my avatar but I love myself as I am and I thank you for the lesson, I thought that here in sl everyone was happy and kind and good but I already learned take care of yourself too.
Well, I'm glad she found the lamp. I know how that can be, losing something online where you think it should last longer.
See, you can misjudge a person for being in the sex industry when they aren't, they just like Arabic culture.
I didn't study this profile carefully, but when I saw "NO CAM" and "NO SKYPE" and "No rl talking" and "RP LIMITS" that signalled to me a person who does sex work but is telling you they don't do it on camera in RL, just inworld. Otherwise, they wouldn't put this. "RP Limits" also suggests that they are into "scenes". It does say "no sex, no bullshit," however even if not in capital letters so I should have assumed that this wasn't just a Weekend Gorean but just a shy Arabic dance teacher. Live and learn!
I don't care at all if someone does sex work in SL. Some of my best tenants are sex workers I imagine but I don't look too closely, it's not my business what people do in my rentals unless they violate either my rules or the TOS. Plenty of people make an income with this world's second oldest profession (acting, a close cousin, being the world's actual oldest). Some people find it repulsive but I gather it must be hard work, certainly harder than making breedable cats who only say what you script them to say.
NO CAM No drama, no sex, no bullshit just fun NO LIER NO RL No rl talking NO SKYPE RP LIMITS☑no copy ☑no modify ☑no transfer
