So a genuine naif?
Or a cynical exploiter?
You decide.
The scene: a $100 camp site.
I had spent a certain amount of time in settling in this person who didn't seem to know what she was doing, but that's ok, that's common, I always explain. She overprimmed and I reminded her once. She's late, finally pays. Think I also returned something there that was breaking the rules, don't recall. I see the box expire, go through the grace period, but I don't have time to get to it -- it ages further. Now, this evening:
[18:47] Juicy Starlight: hey Prokofy ! sorry to bother you, im down by the box where i normally go to pay rent, for some reason it doesn't say my name like it did last time as well as how many days i have left
[18:56] Prokofy Neva: I will take a look
[18:57] Juicy Starlight: no problem ! thanks again, just makes it confusing i wanna make sure im paying the right box hehe
[18:58] Prokofy Neva: can you tp me
[18:58]
[18:59] Juicy Starlight: hey there !
[19:00] Prokofy Neva: Hi, it can't say your name or how many days are left until you pay it
[19:00] Prokofy Neva: so you have 150 prims, you have out 140, Misu Moon has 33, so you need to reduce
[19:01] Juicy Starlight: yes will reduce right after this
[19:01] Juicy Starlight: hmm but itneresting
[19:01] Juicy Starlight: i could of swore it told me how many days i had left before
[19:01] Prokofy Neva: it does that when you pay it
[19:01] Prokofy Neva: when it expires, you didn't pay it, your name is not on it, someone else will rent it
[19:02] Prokofy Neva: you have a grace period of 2 days and then anyone can rent it
[19:02] Prokofy Neva: so this is still available, you pay it and it's yours
[19:02] Juicy Starlight: ahhhh i see i see! just had to make sure, im sooo sorry to bother you about this. But now i understand better
[19:03] Juicy Starlight: thanks again mr Neva, i'll go and reduce now
[19:03] Prokofy Neva: I would think in 9 years you would might have learned how rental boxes worked but ok
[19:03] Juicy Starlight: i never had to rent, i always had others pay for me LOL
[19:03] Juicy Starlight: talk about the simple life, am i right ?
[19:04] Juicy Starlight: but thaaaaaanksss
Well, here, Holly Golightly might have tripped off to Breakfast at Tiffany's and I wouldn't have heard from her again, but obviously instead she stewed for 12 minutes and also had time to rehearse her grievances with her gal pal Cutiepie. Hence:
[19:16] Juicy Starlight: i would think after 15 years you would know how to treat your tenants, even if the reasoning for your help is dumb. Soo congrats !! your uppity, bitchy attitude lost you a tenant !! have a wonderful day :)
[19:32] Prokofy Neva: People deceive me all the time. You were late with your rent, and did this little act to pretend you didn't understand anything. It's total bullshit. Buh-bye hon.
[19:33] Juicy Starlight: actually no, i had no idea i was late, but you were rude buhh byee doll
[19:33] Prokofy Neva: You've ripped me off with overprimming multiple times for days on end, and you've been late. So honestly, look at yourself, you're the problem, and in deep self-delusion if not cynicism
Now, perhaps a better person would just say nothing when they see this act put together by someone in SL 9 years who wasn't born yesterday. But I honestly didn't think it was really possible for someone never to understand a rental box and "why it doesn't have my name on it," when it expires. I have never heard that particular statement that results either from cluelessness, newbiehood, or deception.
Have you?
It's a first.
I've had, "I can't pay it because I'm on the Spanish-language viewer and it doesn't show pay buttons" -- something I might believe, but well, don't quite.
I've had very often, "I never got a reminder" or "My messages cap," but you have 4 of them that go out, then a manual, and messages don't cap if you tie your account to email and also use that block/unblock trick to force them to flood in.
In this case, the person paid another RV area once and was moved because her home didn't fit; she overprimmed and had her box re-set -- she thus saw how the box refunded did not "have her name on it" or "the number of days left" because...it was refunded and reset. She already paid it September 1 for 2 weeks without wondering back then "why her name wasn't on it". It then expired September 14, she had a two-day grace period, and then actually another four full days where it sat there unpaid because I didn't get around to booting her. And yet I get this ration of shit. It's not reasonable.
So I made a comment that was snarky but I think had to be made to let this person know that she can't fuck with me as she has been doing. That I'm now wise to her, and it's over. She's had some forbearance, and she's not evicted but she has to stop with the bullshit if she stays.
Especially as she is overprimming again -- and that's how that game will go as long as she is there unless you return her prims ruthlessly, and then she will claim you lost something previous in her inventory.
Now comes her girlfriend -- are you surprised?
[19:35] CutiePie Alphaville: FIRST OFF I was helping her with the box because she had been away from sl for quite some time. SECOND off the way you treat people you should have your fucking ims stripped from you ... you are absolutely arrogant in the worst way among an ignorant cunt I hope you choke on a cough drop you sorry excuse for a man ... fucking beta male cunt.
[19:36] CutiePie Alphaville: I'll make sure word gets around about how you treat people paying your fucking bills irl enjoy the business loss
[19:49] Prokofy Neva: Um, I'll try to see if I can get over my big business lost of...40 cents a month. buh=bye
I think you'll agree that this somewhat snarky but likely accurate comment from me doesn't merit this kind of foul mouth from her. But delicacy and restraint are not characteristics of these kind of people. Remember, I said:
I would think in 9 years you would might have learned how rental boxes worked but ok
Rental boxes have been in SL since at least 2003. Even if you never rented, you would see them at malls. But many people have rented. CutiePie has a new name from the new name list but is an old avatar of
Seeing that she was overprimming AGAIN and late AGAIN, what I could have said, time's up, you're gone, bye, and just boot them. In fact automatic rental systems would have done that, and big agencies with staff if that didn't do it.
Oh, actually my "business loss" isn't 40 cents a month, it's 52 cents a month, because the last time they over-primmed, I said I could increase the box at the same rate, so I went to $132/200 prims. Whoop de do. I never saw what these working girls put in the sky -- it's better not to look sometimes.
So Juicy's profile says she is a "spoiled bimbo tranny hooker" and the other one, Alphaville, has a Flickr that seems like she favours portrayals of herself as sort of a barely legal Asian hentai human sort of porn star. Then she puts on her profile "My Avi Is 5ft. Don't Question Me 👌"
Um, ok. I suppose when I see people like this coming I should eject them on the grounds that they cannot have commercial activity in residential areas with cheap rates of 0.66/prims, but a small camping spot is usually not what they can use to have a brothel -- it's where they might have their getaway from their brothel activity. I could eject them on the grounds of public adult activity in mature, but they aren't engaging in and honestly, I am not going to chase them.
I guess I don't view people paying 40 cents a month or even 52 cents month in a small camping site area (which really doesn't even pay for the tier it costs, which is kind of a loss- leader and a charity, really), as "paying my bills in IRL". I mean perhaps cumulatively, all my rentals, and then even a lowly 52 cent rental should be scorned. But the reality is, more of my staff time, or somebody's staff time, goes into policing these cheap places and trying to make them work than is often warranted. And more and more, I've been eliminating them, folding them up, creating larger parcels, and renting them to people who aren't assholes like this.
This particular sim has been generally free of trouble, some of the people have been there very long in the camping spots; others come and go. I didn't push it much this summer with advertising and offers because I was busy with other things. I find camping spots, because they are cheap, do attract low-lifes of the ageplay type -- I have a rule that no child avatars can camp there -- they weren't child avatars. I find alt nests try to move in and take over multiple spots and harass me endlessly when I boot them -- but that's a story for another day.
Basically, these two are just assholes. They are likely males, who enjoy dressing up as girls and harassing other people, especially other men. Of course, you can't know that for sure but I find usually these aggressive, exaggeratedly dolled-up types are not actual women in RL. In my experience, avatars that are women in RL don't feel the need for this kind of exaggeration and aggressive behaviour in SL -- it's men who do.
Perhaps they suffered childhood traumas and now we all have to suffer. They don't take SL at all seriously; it's a game in which you try to grab the most out of other people and act faux outraged if you are caught at it -- it's a common griefer technique. One of them has a kind of 4chan griefer kind of image on her profile -- they're a type. If someone wants to have a transgender in SL, more power to them. SL is great for that. I have nothing against them, obviously.
When people threaten to badmouth me and spread some malicious falsehood about me, they get published. It's the only recourse we have. This one also gets an AR for obscenity.
This is a type, a type I am very familiar with, and a type that in other contexts, like Twitter, exhibit full-blown authoritarian mania, elevating every real and more often imagined hurt as a "safetyism" issue. The griefers learned on line -- and later in real life -- that if you play the victim in the identity-politics saturated world we live in, you can get what you want, like a small child throwing a tantrum.
The other day on Twitter I saw somebody's advice about how to fight these terrible temper tantrums thrown by say, transgender anti-fa or BLM marchers claiming that if you photograph them, you are harming them and they may be doxed and harassed online or harmed by police. This is nonsense of course, and journalists need to resist this latest cunning manipulation. The way to prevent someone being arrested from being harassed is to publicize police activities at marches including arrests. That's very basic. And if you think you are entitled to come to a march in black with a mask not only about COVIC and demand anonymity while you set things on fire and beat up people, sorry, no sale.
This person said, "Just say no."
"No" is not what these children spreading the ethos of Evergreen and Portland all over the US now, have ever heard in their lives.
"Just say no."
So I do.
You do know that a RL effigy of you was burnt at Burning Man in 2019? There were pictures somewhere on Flickr.
Posted by: Harekin Harewood | 09/22/2020 at 01:30 PM