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01/30/2023

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A concerned resident

As pointed out on Twitter, don't know if you catched it.

Data scraping bots are in clear violation with Linden Lab TOS article 6.2i which goes a little like this:

6.2 You agree that you will not post or transmit Content or code that may be harmful, impede other users' functionality, invade other users' privacy, or surreptitiously or negatively impact any system or network.

You agree to respect both the integrity of the Service and the privacy of other users. You will not:

(i) Post or transmit viruses, Trojan horses, worms, spyware, time bombs, cancelbots, or other computer programming routines that may harm the Service or interests or rights of other users, or that may harvest or collect any data or information about other users without their consent;


Short translation:
You will not use programming routines that may harvest or collect any data or information about other users without their consent.


Seems pretty clear right? Now the question is if these Lindens who shut the forum threads in a rush such as Kiera Linden, Tommy Linden (who are heads of governance), Patch Linden (who also got promoted into some role), are completely unaware of section 6.2.i of the Linden Lab TOS.

Are people in such company roles not supposed to know the TOS like the inside of their pocket?

If they did knew about article 6.2.i why did they have a productive conversation with these bonniebots programmers instead of just applying the TOS and stop their bots?

What is going on? Why the panic to lock threads about bots when their is community outrage?

Read what the TOS say. You will not harvest ANY DATA of other users.

ANY DATA as in the sales data of merchants, avatar data, resident whereabouts on the grid, data about attachments people wear.

I have serious concerns about the competence of these Lindens.

Again what is going on? TOS seem crystal clear.

Prokofy Neva

Thank you for your useful comment and TOS quote which others haven't noted. I think the answer is: the Lindens are pretty well lawyered up (remember the gatcha ban, which had absolutely no basis in any US law or pending suit or prosecutor's warning or anything except Japan waving its hands, which isn't relevant for a US-based company with no offices in Japan. One of their new investors is Raj Date, a programmer-turned-lawyer-turned-politician, the absolute worst scourge of the land, in my view, a la Benjamin Noble/Benjamin Duranske. These types feel they are vastly superior intellects who should control virtual worlds. And the world will agree that a Stanford-trained engineer and a Harvard-trained lawyer is someone to whom we must genuflect and bow, especially if they are a protogee of Elizabeth Warren and worked for the USG.

Of course, I genuflect only for the Host at the altar and no mortal being so I'm different. I would assume that Raj would be looped into this debate even back in August or last year when it began to be constructed -- Lindens know which bots are scraping what and what chat is going on about them; they are the all-seeing eye with server-side truth unavailable to client-side truths.

So as Patch articulated in his forums intervention, he already consulted with a "GDPR specialist". We don't know who. But it's true that you have to be a legal person to fall under GDPR protection and we're merely low-life avatars with no rights. While various UN committees have affirmed that universal human rights apply online, they don't because we are all bound by the TOS, which one judge called "unconscionable" in the case of LL and its "land". That's the deal, and when you sign the TOS, you also sign their interpretation, not yours.

They will say no information that is not public is available. Naturally we wonder about "premium plus account status," but it turns out they have an LSL function for that now used by Lindens and they tend to be guilty about god powers and want to award them to at least their friends among us mortals so that script is available and known to geeks.

The "online" status, however, goes against the function in the viewer which enables you to hide your online status -- remember when the Lindens awarded this feature to their favourite FlipperPA Peregrine FIC lad after strenuous lobbying? And per that function, your status online should only show to your friends to whom you've made that right available. So how do they square that?
Yet Bonniebots just added that function which shows they are feeling utterly brass ballsy after their fireside chat, despite having to concede "opt out" (which still means they have harvested the data for whatever use they put it to).

So to conclude, they cannot concede that there has been any "harm," from what I gather. They need help in seeing this harm and I hope we will all will continue to give them that awareness.


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