By Prokofy Neva, Virtualtor
I get this sort of thing often, because people never understand how land and prim works, and everyone thinks that if you adjust to THEM they are doing YOU a favour somehow, that they've dreamt up some racket for themselves that you will greet with open arms. No matter how many times you explain, this keeps happening. "I will save you prims," says someone who doesn't want to pay for them, and leave YOU to pay for them -- or try to find a way to use them elsewhere -- as you let someone take up a chunk of square meters.
The problem is that 0.50/prim does not cover tier really. Few people can do the math. My tier is US $0.0030 per meters. A 1024 with 351 costs me $3.07 at the bulk rate of $166 that everyone can have once they get more than a sim (not some special land baron bulk rate which I don't have, although some big dealers are rumoured to have it).
If you come into a $100/200 per month rental, you are paying US $1.39 (I have 10% off for 4 weeks in advance). You then occupy a space that will most likely be 512 (175) or even less. So if your demand then is "Give me the size of a 1024 that costs you $3.07, but let me pay only $1.39 so my 30 x 30 platform fits," you are asking for a further subsidy of your SL.
Of course some rentals companies have this as I explain by stacking up boxes. I like to give people dedicated lots where they can have their own stream and ban list. It's also hard to stack up boxes or domes without ruining the view - I think 500 m or higher height is a minium; in Bellisseria, the Lindens require 2000, but then they have less units per sim with larger houses and easements than I could afford -- they aren't paying the same per server than I am, obviously, but pay Amazon whatever they pay at a bulk discount.
Some people will keep pestering you endlessly and keep taking up your time and I find there is only one tool to get rid of the incessant and greedy and obnoxious who demand to be subsidized in SL on my land: rudeness.
Otherwise I'd be listening to this all day long, every day, endlessly.
Rudeness has to take the place of a white-gloved Concierge service for the cheapest seats. I really have found no other way. If you want to RP Concierge all day because you can sit online and do nothing else and you enjoy RP games, fine. I can't and don't.
PS I had to add the "S" because MidJourney net-nannied me.
Hence:
(Saved Sun Oct 06 03:11:53 2024)Hi, I am keen to rent your $100 / 200 prim sky box platforms - but can i request just a 30m square platform with nothing on it? it will save you prims and allow me freedom to build something with my prims. Thanks
[07:13] Xagina: (Saved Sun Oct 06 07:27:06 2024)thanks, I will do that. Is it ok if i make my platform 30m square or does it have to match the size of the skybox platform?
[07:13] Xagina: (Saved Sun Oct 06 08:20:16 2024)One quick question - i joined the group, i made a platform above to build my house, I made a landmark on the platform - but when i use the LM it has a forced landing spot back to the rented skybox - how do i turn off the forced landing point so i can tp to my platform?
[07:14] Prokofy Neva: It has to match the size of the rental or it may be returned by Linden land or by neighbours
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[07:16] Prokofy Neva: So you were added to resident powers in the group. Switch to the title "residente" on the group menu to access ban, media, set landing, change parcel etc. Then you can change the landing.
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[12:05] Xagina: thanks for the reply, i woke up ridiculously early to see if you might be online
[12:09] Xagina: i said right from the beginning i needed 30x30m platform, might explain why it wont let me rezz part of my home
[12:09] Prokofy Neva: These are cheap rentals that cost .5/prim which is essentially subsidizing your SL
[12:09] Prokofy Neva: if it doesn't work for you, you can click "refund" and find a larger one that actually fits and pay a little more, we have them all over
[12:10] Prokofy Neva: It's amazing to me how the cheaper the rentals are, the more demanding people come. But at least I have refunds : )
[12:10] Xagina: i have been looking at the list, but if they give the space they also give too many prims
[12:11] Prokofy Neva: well that's because prims come with the meters, I don't stack up boxes and domes on one sim and ruin the view and create cheap rentals, you'll have to find someone who does that
[12:11] Xagina: i am not demanding, i just need space with less prims, everyone seems to offer the other way around
[12:11] Prokofy Neva: well think about why that is
[12:12] Prokofy Neva: because prims are in meters, and if I give you a free meter where you don't PAY FOR the prims in it, I can't pay MY tier; the only way to do that is stack up a lot of tacky boxes in a group
[12:12] Prokofy Neva: I have group rentals but to give somebody 200 prims while they take up 30 x 30 of the sim, it's just not on, 1024 = 351
[12:12] Prokofy Neva: keep looking, you'll find something
[12:13] Xagina: its ok, i do see you have the same size footprint with varying amounts of prims so there is some flexibility - i will hit the refund button on this one and keep an eye on the listings
[12:15] Prokofy Neva: If you go to a stack up rentals keep in mind that you can't have your own ban list and radio stream because you're all on one parcel, that is the only way to give someone 200 prims out of space that has 351 prims, by letting someone else in the stack use those prims in a group. But I think they are a) ugly b) stupid c) not practical because people want streams
[12:16] Xagina: you are correct on all that, but all i need is space to rezz my bowling lane so i can practice
[12:16] Prokofy Neva: well you could go to a sandbox
[12:17] Xagina: its ok, i script and reallly just bowl and sit in my space, i will find something - i only came here because you were highly recommended by my first friend in sl
[12:18] Xagina: the first places he showed me had large areas with even less prims - i just thought you would have something similar
[12:19] Xagina: i didnt even want a building provided so it would be less of a drain on the prims for the sim - it doesnt hurt to try :)
[12:22] Prokofy Neva: Prims do not come out of my ass. They are in the land. They have to be paid for. There is no need to "not drain them" if no one then pays for them. I'm sorry I can't help you with your stripping business, Vagina.
[12:22] Prokofy Neva: Go back to your friend and his big spaces with less prims? Honestly there are tons of them in SL
[12:23] Xagina: his big spaces are with ravenglass - he sent me here
[12:24] Xagina: i already refunded it, so there is no need to be rude
[12:24] Prokofy Neva: Bye
[12:24] Xagina: i was not rude to you
[12:24] Prokofy Neva: You're rude to the whole world, and the whole world is rude right back to you
Look at the profile of "Xagina" (Yeesh, the name) inworld and you will see on her profile:
I'm always up for some fun or a chat. IM me ♥
YES, I WILL SLEEP WITH YOU !
I play until I fall asleep most nights, so when that happens consider that I am sleeping with you :)
Gosh, so coy, and so open to misinterpretation such as to be given a slap and a #MeToo report LOL.
Then we get this as the first pick - this is her product she is selling:
INTERACTIVE STRIP HUD
ALLOWS ADD OR REMOVAL OF ANYTHING
BRING YOUR OUTFITS TO LIFE
* MESH FRIENDLY
* REMOVE CLOTHES
* CHANGE CLOTHING
* ADD OBJECTS
* REQUIRES RLV
* CUSTOM MENU
* FULL BLOCK / WHITE LIST
* PUBLIC / PRIVATE
ANY ISSUES DROP ME AN IM
HAPPY TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE SET UP
Next pick: a sign that says BITE ME and the news that she is an Aussie DJ.
Then a place called SPUNK ROCK with a vivid image. Oh, dear.
Then a pick called BEACHING which is her on a beach with her legs spread for the camera.
Then her RP rules:
My character - I dont have one.
I just play myself, just a regular chick who loves music, drinks too much when out, enjoys meeting people and making bad decisions.
If you want to roleplay that scenario buy me a drink, hit the dance floor and see where it leads.
If its legal in RL its OK in here.
- I have not written a paragraph since high school english class, don't expect me to do that here either.
* If you are my old english teacher (Mr Poben) I told you back then I didn't need to learn this :)
Pet hates:
Rude obnoxious people.
Over sized genitals or thighs.
Empty profiles.
Vampires.
Doms.
Rules of any kind
Topping on schnitzel
People who dont try hard enough
People who try too hard
Brown
Simon
XXX
Well, here's what I'm really weary of -- "hate" is too strong a word. People with overly sexualized profiles and explicit pictures that actually go against the TOS with "No Payment on File" and no responsibility for what they do -- who then keep placing demands on others and expect them to subsidize their sex trade.
Why should I do that? There are a million other places you can do that in SL, preferably in Zindra. Oh, but the land is too expensive there and hence the rentals cost more.
Why do I need to subsidize your SL in my rentals? I don't. That is, I do a lot of it already and don't even realize how much of this kind of profile there is because I don't look at people's profiles when they rent unless there is some kind of problem with them. There isn't time and space to do that.
The rentals she is trying to impose her 30 x 30 platform on a space that can't fit it is narrow and only with 200 prims (ALREADY an offer of more prims out of the group than the parcel would fit on its own -- that's how group rentals work) is in that road I undertook to subsidize in Durdane, the heart of Corsica South Coast, an artists' and music community with all kinds of activities.
I'm next to that obnoxious art gallery owner and her military husband who first tried to build on and "improve" my land that came between their land on two sides of the road, then got banned. When I had 3 or 4 more rental spaces on that sim, and used the prims in the road to feed them, it worked. But then someone who had been there for more than a year moved out; two other lots vacated and didn't fill; this area is flat nothing with no roads or waterways on the sim unless residents build it -- hence the resident-built road. Many people will now find Bellisseria, without land abandoning, being chopped up, and blighted and lagged all around them, a better deal than a 1024 in a place like Durdane. I would, too. At this point may people would rather rent a flat homestead pancake square from Anshe for 0.62/prim. I don't find that attractive for lots of reasons, but the price is right and flat homesteads that can't hold a lot of people and scripts do not bother people -- until they do, then sometimes they come back to rent with me. And now, with freestanding homesteads for like US $109/month, why not spend a little more rather than rent an 8192 on the mainland with unprotected views and constant vulnerability of abandonment and lag? Totally understandable.
There's this, too. Does Corsica South Coast the community need people doing adult activity in their area even if in the sky? That is public brothels, not private activity which is tolerated. I don't think that's quite the tone there, so I'm mindful of that too.
Since my rentals in Emyniad are full I guess I can justify the road there but honestly, this entire project has been a waste, and was initially started only to help CSC which got clobbered by the nasty and stupid land baron Winning Witte AKA pansophical who first subsidized them, then stiffed them, leaving tons of extremely cheap or abandoned land open to land predators to chop and flip and turn into ad farms. This corner lot i'm using here now for a skybox landing
This overexposed anonymous gal (or more likely guy if they script) will now rush to her SL friends and say "Prokofy is mean" like the mean girls on the forums say "Prokofy is mean." I honestly don't care. Most people agree with me.
If you honestly expect me to believe you have a bowling alley (these rentals would support a long lane the way they are laid out but not 30 x 30), I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
And I guarantee you that if you put this profile to the forums harpies they would keep insisting that Mangina here is a nice girl who wants to bowl and I've misread her profile.
Why am I putting the name of a person who didn't break my rules? Because I'm tired of this. But now there is an entire social media platform called Primfeed that Xagina can take her business, her pictures, her calls for a cheap rental to subsdize her SL on her NPIOF where she will "script" and "bowl". I actually think Primfeed is a very good thing although I left it recently and I'll explain why in another post.
BTW I have some new cheap rentals -- Halloween special -- in Gnoma. Here is $220/368 prims flat meadow.
Should I chop that up into 3 parts to create the sort of subsidized sky alley this dame wants? Why? A few other landlords did this here on this sim. Why add to the tackiness? I have $25/50 skyboxes but to give you $100/200 prims AND 1024 size land really isn't practical and I only have an amazing deal like that in Durdane in order to use up land that is a white elephant from what I call my "ineffective altruism."
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