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I mean, we KNEW that. But ODNI was redacting it, presumably to prevent suits.
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@emptywheel I realize you're very worked up about this, but even NSA drinks the Internet like a water fountain, can you show a single case?
CatherineFitzpatrick
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emptywheel
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@catfitz You are asserting you don't mind if NSA put together relationship maps of EVERY SINGLE American to find informants? That right?
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@emptywheel No, I wouldn't, because they aren't *looking* at each relationship, they are *finding* connections using existing info.
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@emptywheel I have never been scared that AT&T put out an entire phone book that not only had my number but other people's.
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@catfitz Which is not what I said and not what the court documents show. So you advocate Stasi like informant networks then.
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@emptywheel Once again, come out of your hysterical hypotheticals, show me a real case of violations. Did they spy on YOU and YOURS?
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@catfitz You actually haven't read any of this stuff have you? It's all there. Maybe read a bit. Blocking you now though tedious Stasi fan.
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@emptywheel No, because this is not people informing on people, but machines scanning looking for a pattern people decide under law. Diff.
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@emptywheel And I really wish you'd get that straight and come out of your bubble on this. It really is hysteria.
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@catfitz You HAVEN'T READ THE DOCUMENTS. You are INCORRECT. Wrong.
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@emptywheel You and others haven't been able to come up with *a single case* of wrongdoing of a *real individual*. It's all speculative.
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@emptywheel Do you realize that marketers & anthropologists already use Nodex to find social graphs of all groups on Twitter, and more
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@emptywheel They're scrutinizing lots, lots more people randomly and making judgements about them that could be damaging than the NSA
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@emptywheel Every time Amazon or LinkedIn uses an algorithm to make a recommendation to you, they know way, way more than NSA.
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@emptywheel And we never heard you complain about that, and you never cared, until you had some fake thing to attack the state with.
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@emptywheel But I have been reading them and they are nothing like the Stasi because a) nature of state matters b) human presence matters
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@emptywheel You simply can't show that human intelligence with human reason looked at all the relationship maps of the entire USA/world.
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@emptywheel Having data doesn't mean using data anymore than having the entire phone book means I call everybody or notice proximity.
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You know @emptywheel is reeally intellectually bankrupt with her anti-state antagonism when she can't answer simple questions & blocks ppl.
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